they nerf it for warriors they better compensate us
um, they are proportional to each-other
DK gets a 58% increase in damage from using the trinket
Warrior gets a 51% increase in damage from using the trinket
That could be an odyn's fury + rb + rampage with 100% crit. The problem is that warriors just do more damage during the 5 seconds then DKs do lol, we don't have a % damage increasing cooldown or god forbid, 100% crit like warriors do. Pretty sure unh has more sustained DPS outside battle cry then warriors do.
Unholy needs buffing, trinket doesn't need nerfing really. I agree it should be un-nerfed for unh though.
So let me get this straight. One of the top specs does (around 3 times) more damage with an item than one of the bottom specs (which should actually benefit more from it), all while the bottom spec actually has an artificial and unique "debuff" for that item. And people are defending this situation it with thoretical shit.
I'm just fucking done.
You still get to do all that in the Window. People are assuming that you ONLY get to trinket while Battle Cry is up, and thats completely wrong. You still get to dump all of that atleast once while using the trinket.
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I dont think anyone has ever said this trinket is broken for rogues. and Haste is amazing for Fury warriors.
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If they allow it to crit for warriors, then they should un-nerf it for DK's, since having it crit, vs having it scale with Dreadblade is not even in the same league
100% usage for DK's from Dreadblade would probably hit for around 4mil per use
100% crit chance for Warriors hits for 7-10mil per use
Not even remotely close. Un-nerf the trinket for DK's, it's the very least they can do
This might be interesting for unholy dks as well. It's currently impossible to queue DoS like other abilities, leaving you at atleast 0.2 seconds of delay before it activates. Depending on your latency this may go up to 1sec of doing nothing before DoS is used.
For reference: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ouls-Bug-Delay
As there is a Q&A February the 23rd, I tweeted to Blizzard regarding this problem.
https://twitter.com/Bughosh21/status/833076340811259904
If you want to get this answerd too, you may want to leave a like.
Thanks for your support.
Where do you get the numbers from ? If it was from the guy that posted an example earlier, I wouldn't really compare that much of a damage increase because of different variables and even if you did want to compare them, the gain in damage the warrior gets is more then the unholy's full damage. The trinket is broken for warriors compared to DK's due to the cooldown usage and probably should have been looked at.
If anything, Warriors should have gotten the nerf to the trinket before unholy did.
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For most classes it literally does nothing but deals damage, this is what makes it broken. If it stacked with rogues mastery/multiple cooldowns, then that damage would be insane.
I am not saying it is broken for everyone, I am trying to explain that though it is just damage, it is broken for classes that have damage increases to the trinket.
So Unholy it stacks with Mastery (but the base damage is nerfed because they thought it would be OP.)
Fury Warriors have multiple increases that cause it to do 10m damage compared to the rest of the classes getting 2-4m damage. (I looked up a dk with a top parse that had the Claw trinket, the proc only did 2.6m damage on a 4 minute fight, that is one cast of drought)
So though it isn't the case for all classes, in the terms of some classes, this trinket is utterly broken. So though it may not be as broken for rogues, that is because rogues either scale better with gear or DoS doesn't scale with the rogues abilities compared to some classes.
So though it is in line for rogues, it isn't as good as a lot of stat stick trinkets or trinkets with 2k strength for some classes, it is in another league. A warrior getting three casts is getting 30-35 m damage from a fight with this trinket, pretend it did that for rogue, it would cause it to be broken in your eyes.