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    Question The rise of the Right

    I myself have been called nazi, alt-right, scum of the earth fascist and all the other buzzwords many people spout out on a regular basis on this forum. Yet I vote for the moderat party in Sweden (and was even a member for a short time) which would be more in line with Bernie Sanders then with anything else in the Political landscape of the USA (socialised healthcare and all that stuff), people from the right do care about people. We don't care if a child who was raped was black white jew hindu or whatever colour doesnt matter its the act. I have never heard anyone within politics except for people of the likes of Nordiska motstånds rörelsen ( nordic resistance movement =real nazi's) call for extermanation of anyone. And this is what imo has lead to the rise of the far right is that when you call people who are from the right side of the spectrum nazi's bigots and fascists you are NORMALIZING actual racism and fascism from these proper extreme parties because people are thinking that party and the one that I voted for last time are the same thing. It is people like on the left who have normalised racism.

    Ofcourse there are many reasons for the rise and fall of diffrent political ideologies, but i think that this has played atleast a large part in there resuberance atleast in Sweden.

    This is written after reading through the dude who raped a kid and got 2 months in Sweden, therefore the thing about rape in the above text.

    P.S Sorry for my English i did my best but this is not my 1st language.

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    well the thing is that the lefties have gone so batshit crazy that for the silent majority of reasonable people the right seems way more ... reasonable.

    nowadays right is what people 50 years ago would have called the middle.

    the current political events are complete madness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    well the thing is that the lefties have gone so batshit crazy that for the silent majority of reasonable people the right seems way more ... reasonable.

    nowadays right is what people 50 years ago would have called the middle.

    the current political events are complete madness
    Totally agree with you, and I think that atleast in Sweden the standard thing to say to anyone you dont agree with is that they are racist and people see this as said person just losing the argument since that is in essence what they do with that.

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    Meh, I have not seen an increase of the right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    well the thing is that the lefties have gone so batshit crazy that for the silent majority of reasonable people the right seems way more ... reasonable.

    nowadays right is what people 50 years ago would have called the middle.

    the current political events are complete madness
    As we´re from the same city, i have yet to see the "batshit crazy lefties" you´re talking about.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Meh, I have not seen an increase of the right here.
    Generally about the same

    most of the people I know who are "alt right" (and declare themselves so) are kinda just mad about Tumblr and genders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    well the thing is that the lefties have gone so batshit crazy that for the silent majority of reasonable people the right seems way more ... reasonable.

    nowadays right is what people 50 years ago would have called the middle.

    the current political events are complete madness
    Wrong. Not only are you not a "majority", you aren't silent. 50 years ago, people were dealing with the "Red Scare" of the USSR. Where everyone hated Russia in the US. Not anymore, right wingers are actively sucking Putin's cock now. No way was the current "right" anywhere near the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W1sp View Post
    Totally agree with you, and I think that atleast in Sweden the standard thing to say to anyone you dont agree with is that they are racist and people see this as said person just losing the argument since that is in essence what they do with that.
    I have voted green and social parties "all my life" and the amount of people calling me a racist is unbelievable.

    But to be fair it does happen a lot on the internet and in real life it doesn't really happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Wrong. Not only are you not a "majority", you aren't silent. 50 years ago, people were dealing with the "Red Scare" of the USSR. Where everyone hated Russia in the US. Not anymore, right wingers are actively sucking Putin's cock now. No way was the current "right" anywhere near the middle.
    people love putin. what is wrong with love?
    the lefties are all about hate. hate trump. hate this. hate that.

    I always believed in love more than hate.

    infracted - trolling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    I have voted green and social parties "all my life" and the amount of people calling me a racist is unbelievable.

    But to be fair it does happen a lot on the internet and in real life it doesn't really happen.
    On the internet you´re everything at the same time, always.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Who are batshit crazy leftist ? People calling Nazis dudes with Nazi flags screaming HEIL HUTLER ?

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    US politics have been shifting to the right for decades. The Democrats are now right of where past Republicans were.
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    Not wanting muslims in your country = racist and bigot.

    Sometimes I wonder if the hardcore bleeding hearts are even remotely self-aware or just completely disconnected from reality. It's the reason why a bully like Trump won. It's the reason why Le Penn will win France. Meanwhile all they can do is just scream racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Meh, I have not seen an increase of the right here.
    Don't mean rise on the forum if that's what you mean but overall in politics around the EU and USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoBrando View Post
    Not wanting muslims in your country = racist and bigot.

    Sometimes I wonder if the hardcore bleeding hearts are even remotely self-aware or just completely disconnected from reality. It's the reason why a bully like Trump won. It's the reason why Le Penn will win France. Meanwhile all they can do is just scream racist.
    Not wanting Muslims in your country because they are Muslims is bigoted. Not wanting people from certain areas due to problems with extremism from select parts of the world without properly vetting them is not bigoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    As we´re from the same city, i have yet to see the "batshit crazy lefties" you´re talking about.
    I too can admit locally I've yet to run into batshit anything (left, right, or whatever).

    But boy do they proliferate online...

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    princess serenity.

    take away the infraction.

    I am not trolling.

    thank you and please leave your personal perception out of your interpretation.

    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoBrando View Post
    Not wanting muslims in your country = racist and bigot.

    Sometimes I wonder if the hardcore bleeding hearts are even remotely self-aware or just completely disconnected from reality. It's the reason why a bully like Trump won. It's the reason why Le Penn will win France. Meanwhile all they can do is just scream racist.
    Yes, because, big surprise, the Nazis are actually thinking they are not racists-for instance, lunatics screaming like possessed about how DUH DJEEEEEEEES conspire against them are not thinking they are ''racists'', they think they are ''smurt people that are nut sheeple LULZ''<

    In the worm-filled brain of the alt-right, screaming that Blacks, Jews, Arabs are subhumans that pure aryans have to kill to preserve their chances of getting laid is not ''racist'' : it's true. That's what the alt right calls ''PC'' : not agreeing with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    princess serenity.

    take away the infraction.

    I am not trolling.

    thank you and please leave your personal perception out of your interpretation.

    thank you
    You can message a Global Mod to review an infraction. Believe it or not they do get overturned if the votes go in your favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    You can message a Global Mod to review an infraction. Believe it or not they do get overturned if the votes go in your favor.
    ah thanks for sharing mate gonna do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by W1sp View Post
    Not wanting Muslims in your country because they are Muslims is bigoted. Not wanting people from certain areas due to problems with extremism from select parts of the world without properly vetting them is not bigoted.
    Maybe, but if you ask me a community of people can exclude other people for whatever reason they like. But saying ''muslim'' was a poor choice of words indeed. There are muslims living in my country and have been for long years. I obviously meant the current migrants.

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