I watched this video and there were a few things he said that are just ironic when you look at how trump campaigned and what he's done since winning:
I would be upset too if someone told me that I was privileged in this situation, but if I voted for someone because they said they were going to bring jobs back to my country and then what they actually did was allow their family to continue bringing in more foreign workers to work for low pay in their vineyard, I would be pissed, not defending them. I don't care who you are, if you are elected based on a policy you supported all the way through, there is no way that you would allow your own family to publicly contradict it.Despite losing their jobs and their factories closing down
Really? You don't think banning muslim's from countries that have never attacked America is racist? How about deporting citizens protected by DACA who are actually productive members of society?You've redefined the word racist to mean power privilege and prejudice
If you cant afford it with Obamacare, could you have afforded it without?Whether or not our Bronze tier obamacare plan covers little britneys cough
So you voted for a man that likes to "grab em by the pussy"? Coz that's not sexist at all.You called people that disagreed with you racist sexist nazis
You mean like this? Or this? Demonising is trumps weapon of choice if someone or something upsets him he lashes out at them through twitter.You've demonised us
Unless you count thepopular vote, in which case trump supporters were outnumbered...You are outnumbered
The fact is that the man he voted for is guilty of a lot of the things he said he hates liberals for, so in my opinion, his argument loses a lot of weight based on that alone.
I should have stopped at what seems like a college kid pointing at him self as the working class or talking about coverage under Obamacare for little Debbie... but, I stop at him turning to the black guy to apologize, after saying he was being lynched, while complaining about identity politics.
In short, that video is 100% why Trump won, but not why the OP seems to think...
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Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
You've clearly never been to the Midwest if you believe people are inherently lazier than anyone else.
I've been there. People bust their ass for their jobs, for their families, and for what they believe in. Tell the farmers who are up at 4:30 every day of their lives and in the house at 9 pm that they are lazier than someone else. Same for the factory workers. And guess what? Just as many white-collar workers there as well.
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I didnt vote for Hillary because a strong woman, worthy of leading the country, wouldn't have let her husband humiliate her in front of ten billion people. She didn't divorce Bill Clinton because she craves power and position. That's the number one reason she didn't get my vote. Voting Gary Johnson was the easiest decision I made in 2016. I literally spend more time in the McDonalds drive through deciding my lunch.
It would be best if everyone would do their own work finding a job instead of expecting any government to swoop in and save them, no matter what side they're on.
As a previous poster said, go to town and apply at a fast food restaurant - they're all hiring. I have a Master's Degree, but I paid for it through jobs at three restaurants and Circuit City (and am still paying for it 15 years later).
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Really now??
When I was young I mowed my neighbor's lawn for extra money. Now people just hire "landscapers" instead of giving the neighborhood kid money. I suppose one could argue the neighborhood kid would rather sit and play video games all day instead.
You people are looking at the small picture.
What about all those construction jobs?drywall, roofers, painters etc. Cooks(had a friend in HS his dad was ship's cook) factory jobs(like the one I mentioned earlier).
Where/when I grew up we had a lot of Vietnamese immigrants that had shrimp boats. Now, these people were legal immigrants and I don't have any issues with that since they are American citizens.
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Eat meat. Drink water. Do cardio and burpees. The good life.
This "America Won't Do" meme has to stop now.
First to your point, there are labor laws now that prohibit employers from underpaying people unless those jobs are illegally off the books. It is the governments job (state, local, federal, whatever) to find those employers and impose heavy fines/restitution to employees.
Now, this whole nonsense that illegals do the jobs that Americans won't do is simply false. [ed: Have you ever seen the jobs Americans do on Dirty Jobs?]
You are failing to consider what happens when you flood the market with cheap labor: wages go down and jobs go off the books so employers can avoid paying taxes, benefits or providing a safe working environment.
Democrats claim to be champions of the poor and (legal) minorities and yet illegal immigration disproportionately hurts those exact people Democrats are supposed to represent.
Here are some examples of what happens when illegal immigrants are removed from factories:
- Swift and Co - a meat packing plant raided by ICE in 6 states. Over a thousand illegals rounded up. The result was that a large number of US citizens lined up in those states to take the now available jobs. It was reported at one of the plants that wages were raised from $9.55 per hour to $11.50 per hour to fill in the vacancies.
-- Another example at Howard Industries. After another ICE raid, in Laurel Mississippi, 500+ illegals were deemed ineligible to work. Hundreds of job applicants lined up to fill the open positions. The unemployment rate in that town was 6.8%. The article notes that many of the people lined up were African Americans.
Let the meme die
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Even his points are muted by his next comments. He went from bitching about liberals and identity politics, to few minutes later apologizing to a black guy next to him for saying lynched. Complained about Debbie trying to figure out why she us sick, and Debbie is sick and so poor, for coverage under Obamacare.
The one thing that revealed, is that support of Trump depends on everything and anything you can imagine, excluding Trump. The video isn't about Trump won, it's about why DNC lost. How much business does trump have in Midwest? Is that because he thought building a golf course in Scotland, while fucking over natives there, instead of Pennsylvania because of identity politics? Did Trump position to take citizens land through eminent domain to build office space?
I get they don't like "liberals", but every problem he mentioned is due to plutocrats, which is what Trump is... not a conservative or liberal... but, plutocrat. The counter to who Trump is, happens to be the working class, both white and blue collar, any race and any place on the political spectrum...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
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Based upon her voting history in the senate, absolutely. She may be a career politician with Wall Street connections, but for years now, she's already "fought for anyone other than herself and her private and/or political interests" on a regular basis. Surprise. People are more nuanced than your black-and-white world view would like to assume.
Trump, on the other hand ... lied about fighting for blue-collar America, and is now quite transparently fighting only for himself and his interests. Trump supporters handed America over to a narcissistic robber baron because he'd "bring back our jobs!" while spewing vitriol at a woman who -- while she may be a rich, career politician -- wouldn't have tried to start screwing them over in her first week in office.
Jeez, that guy was literally parroting /pol/ word by word.
The majority of white Americans voted for Trump because they believed in his entrepreneuring skills to bring back jobs to the working class not because some liberal called them a bigots and dwelled on "identity politics".
None of which (Save medicine) were problems for the vast majority of Dump supporters. The correct response is that they FEARED not being able to buy food and cloth their children thx to Dumps lies.
And Dump just royally screwed them on Medicine by dropping the Canadian trade agreement and screwing them even MORE over via affordable insurance by repealing the ACA.
As for putting clothes on your kids? Hah - good luck doing that when he repeals Minimum Wage laws! :P
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How little time spent is usually an indication of not so well thought out plan. Plenty of women stay with husbands that cheat, including JFK. You are punishing her, for her reaction to her husband cheating. No wonder your selection was so fast... don't be so hasty next time... you were not DPSing the voting booth...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
“I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: ‘O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.’ And God granted it.” -- Voltaire
"He who awaits much can expect little" -- Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Yes, and he stuck his dick in many more. Do you honestly not understand the difference between grabbing them by the pussy and kinky sex? What's next, there is nothing wrong with what Trump said, because 50 shades of grey has a woman in bondage?
Edit: By the way, you do know how much it cost the tax payer as a result of the "guy they loved"? You do know he was impeached as a result, not became president?
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
If you have the audacity to think you know enough about me to comment on my "black-and-white world view," then you clearly have nothing to add to this conversation, because you already have your mind made up about whatever it is you want to believe and are only going to resort to the name-calling you've already demonstrated against me.
I didn't make an argument for or against anyone, just asked a question.
For the record, you have no clue what side I'm on, who I voted for, whether I am liberal or conservative, or if I voted. You just resort to name-calling.
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