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    Bill Gates: the robot that takes your job should pay taxes.



    Bill Gates gives his thoughts about automation and workers in the somewhat close future: Robots who takes jobs from humans should pay taxes.

    While I highly recommend to watch the video (it's short, just a little bit faster than two minutes), here's a TL;DR:

    If humans helped fund these robots through taxes, it is therefore only logical that a tax be applied on the robots, as some kind of Robot taxes. Considering all the money that the industries will save through automation, a tax will be a minimal cut in their budget while allowing living workers to find something new and/or refresh themselves in a new domain.

    I'm personally glad that we're taking a more direct focus on automation. It's becoming imminent, so making sure we're doing it right is (and should be) one of humanity's main priority.
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    I reckon this tax money will be the first step towards Universal Basic Income. If a fully functional AI is ever created it is inevitable that every job is replaced by AI units that can perform every job better than humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTitan1937 View Post
    I reckon this tax money will be the first step towards Universal Basic Income. If a fully functional AI is ever created it is inevitable that every job is replaced by AI units that can perform every job better than humans.
    This!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTitan1937 View Post
    I reckon this tax money will be the first step towards Universal Basic Income. If a fully functional AI is ever created it is inevitable that every job is replaced by AI units that can perform every job better than humans.
    Great, that will be the first step towards the robot Marxist revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    Socialism, everybody.
    yeah...instead of dealing with the actual issue we should just blame immigrants
    Quote Originally Posted by Gillern View Post
    "IM LOOKING AT A THING I DONT LIKE, I HAVE THE OPTION TO GO AWAY FROM IT BUT I WILL LOOK MORE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE THING I DONT LIKE BECAUSE I DONT LIKE IT, NO ONE IS FORCING ME TO SEARCH FOR THIS THING OR LOOK AT THIS THING OR REMAIN LOOKING AT THIS THING BUT I AM ANYWAY, ITS OFFENDS ME! ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTitan1937 View Post
    I reckon this tax money will be the first step towards Universal Basic Income. If a fully functional AI is ever created it is inevitable that every job is replaced by AI units that can perform every job better than humans.
    And if you think this future is a glorious utopia, you're kidding yourself. It instead is the most nihilistic and inhuman of futures.

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    seems like a logical idea. people need to eat, money has to come from somewhere if there are no jobs anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    Socialism, everybody.
    Nothing to do with socialism. Offering the very basic to your population is what any developed country ought to be doing.

    basic education
    basic health services
    basic public transportation
    basic amenities
    basic access to internet , energy

    These are essential to a country and cannot be left to speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delana View Post
    And if you think this future is a glorious utopia, you're kidding yourself. It instead is the most nihilistic and inhuman of futures.
    lolwut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillern View Post
    "IM LOOKING AT A THING I DONT LIKE, I HAVE THE OPTION TO GO AWAY FROM IT BUT I WILL LOOK MORE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE THING I DONT LIKE BECAUSE I DONT LIKE IT, NO ONE IS FORCING ME TO SEARCH FOR THIS THING OR LOOK AT THIS THING OR REMAIN LOOKING AT THIS THING BUT I AM ANYWAY, ITS OFFENDS ME! ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTitan1937 View Post
    I reckon this tax money will be the first step towards Universal Basic Income. If a fully functional AI is ever created it is inevitable that every job is replaced by AI units that can perform every job better than humans.
    Yep, it won't even need a new name. We can just call it welfare. This would just be a source of funding.
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    I definitely want robots to pay my taxes

    And do my work

    Win win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    Why are you leaving out:

    basic food & drink
    basic home
    basic sex
    basic feeling of accomplishment

    ?
    Doesn't know what the word amenities means
    Quote Originally Posted by Gillern View Post
    "IM LOOKING AT A THING I DONT LIKE, I HAVE THE OPTION TO GO AWAY FROM IT BUT I WILL LOOK MORE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE THING I DONT LIKE BECAUSE I DONT LIKE IT, NO ONE IS FORCING ME TO SEARCH FOR THIS THING OR LOOK AT THIS THING OR REMAIN LOOKING AT THIS THING BUT I AM ANYWAY, ITS OFFENDS ME! ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!"
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    They already do its called an income tax, corporate income tax, or capital gains tax on the person who owns the robot and its a higher rate than anyone replaced by a robot pays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    Why are you leaving out:

    basic food & drink
    basic home
    basic sex
    basic feeling of accomplishment

    ?
    I dont believe the state is to provide you with any of those. The state should offering the basics, the rest is up to you to go get it.

    Want to become an ingineer? work your ass off.
    Want food? Go get a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psyquest View Post
    I dont believe the state is to provide you with any of those. The state should offering the basics, the rest is up to you to go get it.

    Want to become an ingineer? work your ass off.
    Want food? Go get a job.
    what are the basics if it doesn't include food and shelter?

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    But... no taxation without representation... so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delana View Post
    And if you think this future is a glorious utopia, you're kidding yourself. It instead is the most nihilistic and inhuman of futures.
    The fact that you use nihilism and inhuman back to back, implies it will be more of a utopia than you seem to think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiyld View Post
    Doesn't know what the word amenities means
    same as infrastructure,

    the state is responsible for roads, energy delivery etc

    a desirable or useful feature or facility of a building or place.
    "heating is regarded as a basic amenity"
    synonyms: facility, service, convenience, resource, appliance, aid, comfort, benefit, feature, advantage
    "basic amenities"

    you could have googled that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    But... no taxation without representation... so...
    So nobody tell the robots they aren't being represented...
    Quote Originally Posted by Gillern View Post
    "IM LOOKING AT A THING I DONT LIKE, I HAVE THE OPTION TO GO AWAY FROM IT BUT I WILL LOOK MORE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE THING I DONT LIKE BECAUSE I DONT LIKE IT, NO ONE IS FORCING ME TO SEARCH FOR THIS THING OR LOOK AT THIS THING OR REMAIN LOOKING AT THIS THING BUT I AM ANYWAY, ITS OFFENDS ME! ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    But... no taxation without representation... so...
    that doesn't matter a long as robots are property.

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