If she does not like the natural consequences of eroding basic western rights she is free to go back to whatever sharia compliant shithole she or her family crawled out of.
Creating blasphemy laws, what a fucking nerve.
If she does not like the natural consequences of eroding basic western rights she is free to go back to whatever sharia compliant shithole she or her family crawled out of.
Creating blasphemy laws, what a fucking nerve.
The law isn't based on race, it's based on the concept of identifiable groups, which religious groups absolutely qualify as. "Genocide" isn't exclusively applied to race.
You have literally no examples to back you, particularly as the hate speech laws in Canada involve prison sentences, not monetary penalties.Those four have not been shown to be ironclad defenses from large monetary penalties. I am extremely hesitant to extend what isn't a sturdy system to start with. Direct death threats yes I agree. The rest it comes down to if you see it as coming from good faith or bad faith. I look at what has been down with current hate speech laws and they are wielded as a sword rather then a shield so I can't support this.
That case may be an instance of racism, but it doesn't break any of those laws. Thanks for proving that your prior claims were incorrect and that my position has been correct all along, I guess?Well I can't easily find the case and I will admit am unwilling to do so with the time I have for at least tonight I can point out how poorly these laws are enforced...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8436939f767a
I don't trust any of the actors involved to not abuse any power given to them.
Unless you say specifically 'hey kill that guy standing over there right now!', which would be an incitement of violence, I don't see why you should ban saying 'kill all xxx'. If you really want to ban the phrase 'kill all xxx' then you would have to ban the bible and the quran, since both of those books have multiple calls to 'kill all xxx' in them.
It really seems like such a law would be impossible to actually enforce fairly, how such a law would be used would be to specifically target those that the state wants to target for saying things that they don't like.
The way of thinking that lies behind 'thought crime' legislation is the reason why the East German government felt the need to put informants in every single house.
Most people would rather die than think, and most people do. -Bertrand Russell
Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn’t be noticed - nationality did not really exist, only humanity. But in the camps one learns: if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity - too bad for you -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
she probably made all those emails up just so she can garner more sympathy, its very sad.
I condemn those threatening to kill her, should they exist, and her actions have been reprehensible.
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Its already banned either way, this topic is fume over a law Canada had for a very long time. You cannot incite to genocide of any group period. Kill that guy stand over there right now is another law in its own. Its death threats to a citizen, a very serious criminal offense. Ok look at it this way to compare to USA. Imagine the BLM people on the street in the USA chanting death to all cop. In Canada BLM is commiting a crime doing this, they are inciting genocide against police officers.
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I think the bill itself is a bit unnecessary but it's funny watching conservatives:
"We can't beat the terrorists unless we call it radical Islam! But don't use the word Islamophobia in a bill."
Nice to see that some canadians are still willing to fight against the invaders.
"And maybe look into ways..."
That ambiguous open ended garbage is the way erosion of rights start. Islam is a set of ideas, no ideas are beyond criticism. If they are basically doing nothing, then just do nothing. Islamophobia aka honest interpretations of the Quran and Hadiths is not inherently bad, so the government should be taking no position. I mean, they actual should take a position based on the statistics from majority Muslim countries haha, but that won't happen.
The only thing that will happen is I'll get infracted for saying something negative about a set of ideas on MMO.
Geez, it's spreading to Canada too? I'm sorry to hear that. People don't deserve this kind of abuse for trying to stifle hatred.
If you're a politician at a national level and you aren't getting death threats then you aren't doing your job.
Anti-phobia laws are pretty fascist. Fight fear with education, not more fear.
@Hubcap, what's going one? Why are you also staring to use emoticons in your titles now?
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Holy crap.
I am so glad I don't live in Canada.
Not only are the provisions under 319(1) and 319(2) (public incitement and willful promotion of hatred) exceedingly vague as to catch almost any criticism written, spoken, gestured, or telepathically broadcast in a public place as hate speech if the Attourney General really wanted to go after it, the specific exemptions to indictment for 319(1) or 319(2) in 319(3b) for an OPINION based on religious text are batshit insane. I can say all homosexuals are deviant and should be castrated and be indicted if an atheist but protected if Muslim.
What in the actual f*** are you guys doing up there?
We're seeing a big swing away from social democracy and more into a conservative attitude in several ""western"" countries and these laws have recieved a ton of criticism along with it, because people don't like it when the state starts to control your speech or when it shields certain groups that people don't think warrants the effort from the government.
Now wether what people say is in line of what one could describe as ''kosher'' or not is irrelevant to the point being made, i'm not making a defense for hate speech.
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