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    More supports in next months?

    I heard some rumors, that Blizzard state that will start releasing more supports after Lucio.

    Any idea it is true or not?
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    What they really need are diablo characters. Where the hell are Mephisto, Baal, Duriel, Andariel, or Duriel? Cain?

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    Theyve only mentioned dishing out new heroes every 3-5 weeks and that they will be avoiding releasing assassins for a while.

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    There was a mention they plan 4 or 5 support releases for 2017, can't find link atm tho. Was either on reddit or quoted there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoicefromwithin View Post
    There was a mention they plan 4 or 5 support releases for 2017, can't find link atm tho. Was either on reddit or quoted there.
    It was indeed on reddit. They've been rather active over there.

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    They also said that they "agreed" the game could use more D2 heroes, let the conspiracies begin! (Obviously this doesn't mean that the support and D2 hero are the same hero.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ophion1990 View Post
    They also said that they "agreed" the game could use more D2 heroes, let the conspiracies begin! (Obviously this doesn't mean that the support and D2 hero are the same hero.)
    Are there any D2 heroes that could fill the support role? I don't play Diablo but my impression from speaking with others is that there aren't really any healers in that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachnofiend View Post
    Are there any D2 heroes that could fill the support role? I don't play Diablo but my impression from speaking with others is that there aren't really any healers in that game.
    Maybe D2 Paladin, it was probably the closest you could get to being a support/healer in that game. It would also make it different from Johanna, but maybe way too similar to Uther. I don't know, maybe they could focus on Auras since it was untouched by Warcraft version of Paladin representative.

    Other than that, I guess Itherael. Since he is Archangel of Fate, I can see him more like an utility support or Medivh type Specialist though, as it is rather weird aspect to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    Maybe D2 Paladin, it was probably the closest you could get to being a support/healer in that game. It would also make it different from Johanna, but maybe way too similar to Uther. I don't know, maybe they could focus on Auras since it was untouched by Warcraft version of Paladin representative.

    Other than that, I guess Itherael. Since he is Archangel of Fate, I can see him more like an utility support or Medivh type Specialist though, as it is rather weird aspect to begin with.
    The next angel should be a specialist since we have a warrior/support and they want to avoid assassins for a while.

    Meanwhile, Deckard Cain is perfect for a support role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De Lupe View Post
    The next angel should be a specialist since we have a warrior/support and they want to avoid assassins for a while.
    I think it depends on your idea what Specialist should be. I said Itherael could be utility based Hero like Medivh since Fate is really weird aspect.

    The other angels, Imperius is clearly an Assassin and I think Malthael is tricky. As an Archangel of Death, I don't think sieging forts fits his aspect and turning minions into reapers is what Xul already does. For some reason I think Malthael could be a Bruiser because of his life leeching and also in D3 he uses a whirlwind ability reflecting all skill shots, which could be a really cool mechanic.

    I don't know, I just don't like the current HotS roles as I don't think they are very precise. For example Ragnaros is like Warrior and Specialist hybrid more than a enemy Hero disabler, aka Assassin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    I think it depends on your idea what Specialist should be. I said Itherael could be utility based Hero like Medivh since Fate is really weird aspect.

    The other angels, Imperius is clearly an Assassin and I think Malthael is tricky. As an Archangel of Death, I don't think sieging forts fits his aspect and turning minions into reapers is what Xul already does. For some reason I think Malthael could be a Bruiser because of his life leeching and also in D3 he uses a whirlwind ability reflecting all skill shots, which could be a really cool mechanic.

    I don't know, I just don't like the current HotS roles as I don't think they are very precise. For example Ragnaros is like Warrior and Specialist hybrid more than a enemy Hero disabler, aka Assassin.
    I agree that they should branch the roles out a bit. Assassin is already ranged or melee, why not have the others split up a bit. Bruisers as War + Asn/Sup hybrids, Tanks as pure meatshields, Healers and Support actually become two different roles, while Specialist becomes Siege or Asn/Sup hybrid.

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    It's largely just bruisers that need their own category, I think. Sonya is the most obvious outlier, she clearly fulfills the same role as Thrall or Ragnaros as a tough frontline DPS with strong 1v1 capabilities but is classified as a warrior while the other two are assassins.

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    Regarding Diablo 2 bosses...

    Andariel can be a specialist imo, focusing on lane clears, mercenary camps and perhaps DoT builds stronger against heroes

    Duriel can be a warrior who can stun and slow

    Mephisto ranged assassin definitely, not sure what he'd do, perhaps a team reliant hero

    Baal can be some kinda ranged warrior, like zarya and one of his ults is a clone of himself which does the same damage as himself but is squishy as hell and/or doesn't last long, as well as he has a mana drain and a slowing aoe - His second ult can perhaps be his death beam thing which does a ton of damage against a single target and slows other enemies near the target

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachnofiend View Post
    Are there any D2 heroes that could fill the support role? I don't play Diablo but my impression from speaking with others is that there aren't really any healers in that game.
    As RH92 said, probably the paladin. He had Holy Bolt, which damages enemies and heals allies and Prayer to heal allies similar to BW, Meditation which gave nearby allies mana regen ,Cleansing which'd reduce poison duration,... Only other character I can really think of is Akara or something, who healed you to full when talking to her and was the one who gave you a couple of the main quests. Neither of these really seem like something I'd expect them to add at this point though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ophion1990 View Post
    As RH92 said, probably the paladin. He had Holy Bolt, which damages enemies and heals allies and Prayer to heal allies similar to BW, Meditation which gave nearby allies mana regen ,Cleansing which'd reduce poison duration,... Only other character I can really think of is Akara or something, who healed you to full when talking to her and was the one who gave you a couple of the main quests. Neither of these really seem like something I'd expect them to add at this point though.
    The problem with support paladin is...it won't feel at all like a D2 paladin. I've played Diablo 2 since it was released, I STILL log on sometimes. I've seen every weird build under the sun(and played many of them). Bow sorcs, bow assassins, werewolf and werebear barbarians, bear sorcs and assassins, multiple variants of auradins, riftadins, sword zons, naked necromancers...and in all that time, I literally saw TWO people playing a "healer" type paladin. And one of them wasn't even playing him, it was a PvP game, guy had 2 copies of the game, his dueler who fought, and his "healer" who stood just inside the town gates the whole game to provide an aura to the guy that was actually fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcall View Post
    The problem with support paladin is...it won't feel at all like a D2 paladin. I've played Diablo 2 since it was released, I STILL log on sometimes. I've seen every weird build under the sun(and played many of them). Bow sorcs, bow assassins, werewolf and werebear barbarians, bear sorcs and assassins, multiple variants of auradins, riftadins, sword zons, naked necromancers...and in all that time, I literally saw TWO people playing a "healer" type paladin. And one of them wasn't even playing him, it was a PvP game, guy had 2 copies of the game, his dueler who fought, and his "healer" who stood just inside the town gates the whole game to provide an aura to the guy that was actually fighting.
    Yeah, I agree with Diablo II Paladin support being too much of a stretch. Honestly though, I don't want to see many 'holy warrior' types since we already have Johanna as a tank, Uther as a healer and the last Retribution Paladin I want to see is Maraad since he was the first Draenei we ever saw and basically an epitome of whole race design. Which kills two demands with one shot.

    With that being said, I don't think there are characters from Starcraft and Diablo that can be healers as there was never a major focus on healing to begin with. Which I am fine with, I am okay with Warcraft and Overwatch supports as the healing plays a bigger role inside their storylines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcall View Post
    The problem with support paladin is...it won't feel at all like a D2 paladin. I've played Diablo 2 since it was released, I STILL log on sometimes. I've seen every weird build under the sun(and played many of them). Bow sorcs, bow assassins, werewolf and werebear barbarians, bear sorcs and assassins, multiple variants of auradins, riftadins, sword zons, naked necromancers...and in all that time, I literally saw TWO people playing a "healer" type paladin. And one of them wasn't even playing him, it was a PvP game, guy had 2 copies of the game, his dueler who fought, and his "healer" who stood just inside the town gates the whole game to provide an aura to the guy that was actually fighting.
    Yup, which is why in my first post I said the D2 hero that might be coming probably won't be the same hero as the supports that were teased. That's besides the fact that we already have a paladin healer aswell and that if we get a paladin healer with Prayer, that's another healer with a healing aura.

    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    Yeah, I agree with Diablo II Paladin support being too much of a stretch. Honestly though, I don't want to see many 'holy warrior' types since we already have Johanna as a tank, Uther as a healer and the last Retribution Paladin I want to see is Maraad since he was the first Draenei we ever saw and basically an epitome of whole race design. Which kills two demands with one shot.
    Yeah, definitly would prefer Maraad. Though as you said, we don't need too many 'holy warriors' either, considering we already have Uther, Tyrael and Johanna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ophion1990 View Post
    Yeah, definitly would prefer Maraad. Though as you said, we don't need too many 'holy warriors' either, considering we already have Uther, Tyrael and Johanna.
    Well, I would like to see all Archangels anyway! I think they are just way too cool looking. However, both Imperius and Malthael have very different looks in comparison to other Angels so I don't think they would add too much of the same.

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    This week should be an teaser for next hero right? I kinda imagne D2 paladin as warrior than support due to his offensive talents in D2. But what about Ithrael?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesoPL View Post
    This week should be an teaser for next hero right? I kinda imagne D2 paladin as warrior than support due to his offensive talents in D2. But what about Ithrael?
    I think releasing a Diablo II Paladin is kind of waste of resources since we already have Johanna who is a Crusader and according to lore, Crusaders are just a different branch of Paladin order which means they are basically the same.

    Regarding Itherael, it is hard to tell what can he do. He is Archangel of Fate and his power is about foreseeing future, but the tricky part is he can only foresee future of demons and angels, not humans. However other than that, it is mentioned he could control time and teleport.

    Lack of information about a character might be good since it creates no obstacles in order to create a truly unique kit.

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