Nighthold LFR Wing 3 poorly tuned?

[kamuimac]

did it tonight - dmg seems ok but the healthpools should be cut by 30 % at least as it takes forever to kill those bosses :/

its as fun as whacking a training dummy for 10 minutes

[Rixis]

Lets find out Tank in my run left after Tichondrius wipe, qued again with his guildie and got invite to the same group :P

Demon hunter, and his friend was a warrior.

He then pulled shit loads of trash to Krosus, wiped the group, got vote kicked and his warrior friend left.

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

About how much dps do heroic raiders do at the moment?

[Deleted]

Does it matter? LFR is designed to be brute forced both because of Determination stacks and the asocial culture of the mode.

[DisposableHero]

About how much dps do heroic raiders do at the moment?

75th percentile heroic krosus parses range from 536k (Destro lock) to 665k (Assassination Rogue) over the last two weeks.

Edit: corrected, had the mythic numbers

[Triggered Fridgekin]

I haven't been in the LFR wing yet but I can only imagine how slow Krosus is when it comes to breaking the bridge and yet I am sure it's still catching a handful of players each time.

[Faenskap]

My take on the 3rd wing:
Tichondrius: while clearing thrash, boss was pulled. Wipe. 2nd try, we hit enrage. Killed him on the 3rd attempt.
Bridge guy: easy, 1shot, think 3 people died when he smashed the bridge.
Elisandre: somehow we wiped on the 1st attempt (1 tank was outside) and it was also a ninjapull. Went down on the 2nd go. Not too difficult, especially when being in the pink bubbles. Some circles starting on the edge of the room before going to the middle. I just stood in them, not really sure on how to avoid them?

All in all, not too bad. Tich has a really big healthpool, but he did go down. Mechanics wise; not complex, but you can't have afk people. Confusing layout (give me Blackrock Descent please) which I hate. I'm casual scum and I haven't raided since Dragon Soul because it's boring - just went there in hopes of getting some gear. Yes, I contribute to the group by doing my rotation and not leeching on others despite being utterly bored and thinking "are we done soon?".

[Orangetai420]

They are really softly tuned and super forgiving, you just had a really bad group.

Agreed, trash was pulled with Tich on my run and we still cleared it without too much of an issue.

[Socialhealer]

The hp pool for Tich is definitely scaled too high, unless changed in the last 12hrs. Fact is you shouldn't need raiders in there to carry the dps so you can hit an enrage.

I had a group of
x3 600k
x4 500k
x6 400k
The rest under, and we hit beserk at like 10% hp.

It's lfr, it's meant to be a joke. The healthpool is too high.

it's not a single target fight, thats not 600k dps single target, unless bloods don't spawn on lfr but i can't imagine that thats basically all the mechanics gone.

[Bloodmagix]

It is hilarious how the arcanetic rings in LFR don't even tickle you. I don't even know why they are there.

They nearly heal you even. Went in on a low gear alt, expecting rings to hurt a bit more, but nope.

[Frolk]

Maybe if ppl did over 200k it wouldt be "poorly tuned"

[kamuimac]

Maybe if ppl did over 200k it wouldt be "poorly tuned"

but people in there wont do more then that since 3/4 of them are freshly dinged alts with 840 itlv hoping for any gear upgrades .

and blizzard should tune it around it not around wishfull thinking " lets hope 10 hc geared raiders will que up for legendaries"

[Igi]

Demon hunter, and his friend was a warrior.

He then pulled shit loads of trash to Krosus, wiped the group, got vote kicked and his warrior friend left.

Hah, it's a small world (of warcraft).

[Pickynerd]

I thought it was much easier than the other 2 wings for LFR'ers. As long as your tanks aren't stupid its pretty smooth.

[Harbour]

Yep, on lfr they are super easy. This is not what you will expect after Auriel or Augur. Mechanics are super simple and dont punish enough for being slow.

[Saiona]

we 1 shot them all on my shitty ele shaman. Wing 2 always seems worse for me

[Emerald Archer]

it's not a single target fight, thats not 600k dps single target, unless bloods don't spawn on lfr but i can't imagine that thats basically all the mechanics gone.

Ofc it's not single target, but it's lfr, fact is if people are doing those numbers, it is overtuned. Lfr should be able to do 350k across the board on a fight like that, and not hit beserk. Because it's LFR.

What's happening now, (I went back in, it hasn't been nerfed it's still a tight berserk) we had 5 determination stacks, and had to start kicking 840 players because they couldn't pull the dps just to kill it. These guys weren't afk, they were just lfr noobery.

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Doesn't make sense to me, when people have the attitude of "Hurr durr, I 1 shot it so obviously beserk hasn't been an issue for anyone at all and this fight is 100% fine"

[kamuimac]

I think I take Exorsus opinion over a random forum poster on this, tyvm

not really sure what being in exorsus who dont do lfr only WF progression has to do with topic about tuning of lfr but hey whatever

unless you suggest that lfr should be tuned towards WF guilds liking then ye sure.

[Enosh]

Maybe if ppl did over 200k it wouldt be "poorly tuned"

how much should a 835 with some ~25-30 traits do?

[Blade Wolf]

Only painful boss so far has been Augur for me because of the add and it's Void Shift ability, If they remove the Void Shift so the add can be tanked on the boss and cleaved then it would be much smoother.