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    Sweden Democrats: Trump was right

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...was-right.html

    Two leading Swedish politicians have a message for President Trump’s critics: He’s right.

    Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats, penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Wednesday supporting Trump’s characterization of a Muslim immigrant-led crime crisis in Sweden.

    “Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden’s current problems,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote. “If anything, he understated them.”

    “Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden’s current problems. If anything, he understated them.”

    - Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, in Wall Street Journal op-ed

    Trump was ridiculed by many after he gave a speech Saturday citing Sweden among a list of European countries affected by the scourge of Islamic terror. Referring to the massive number of Middle Eastern refugees that have poured into the country, Trump said Sweden was “having problems like they never thought possible.” Some Swedish politicians openly derided Trump’s portrayal of the country – but riots in a heavily immigrant suburb of Stockholm on Monday evening put an end to most of the mockery.

    “Riots and social unrest have become a part of everyday life,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote. “Police officers, firefighters and ambulance personnel are regularly attacked. Serious riots in 2013, involving many suburbs with large immigrant populations, lasted for almost a week. Gang violence is booming. Despite very strict firearms laws, gun violence is five times as common in Sweden, in total, as in the capital cities of our three Nordic neighbors combined.”

    They added: “Anti-Semitism has risen. Jews in Malmo are threatened, harassed and assaulted in the streets. Many have left the city, becoming internal refugees in their country of birth.”

    The Sweden Democrats duo ended the op-ed with a warning for the United States.

    “For the sake of the American people,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote, “with whom we share so many strong historical and cultural ties, we can only hope that the leaders in Washington won’t make the same mistakes that our socialist and liberal politicians did.”

    We must heed this warning and I hope for the sake of Sweden's future something's gonna change sooner than later.
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    Smart of them to support Trump when most of Sweden dislikes the guy.

    I'm laughing at all the votes/seats parties in Europa are losing because of Trump.

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    Color me shocked that a party with a platform identical to Trump's thinks he is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...was-right.html




    We must heed this warning and I hope for the sake of Sweden's future something's gonna change sooner than later.
    So far right Neo-Nazi party writes an article to spout far right Neo-Nazi talking points. Credibility of the writers on being truthful = 0%.

    How is this worth debate?
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    So far right Neo-Nazi party writes an article to spout far right Neo-Nazi talking points. Credibility of the writers on being truthful = 0%.

    How is this worth debate?
    Taft saw Democrat in the title and like all other blind Fox News supporters thinks the term is the same as US Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    So far right Neo-Nazi party writes an article to spout far right Neo-Nazi talking points. Credibility of the writers on being truthful = 0%.

    How is this worth debate?
    You are welcome to dislike them, but it's beyond retarded to call them neo-nazis. It's so out of touch with reality that it's sad, it's literally akin to calling Obama a muslim communist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sama-81 View Post
    You are welcome to dislike them, but it's beyond retarded to call them neo-nazis. It's so out of touch with reality that it's sad, it's literally akin to calling Obama a muslim communist.
    While calling them neo-nazis is a stretch there sure are certain members of that party that are flat out nazis. It wasn't that long ago their whole platform was based on fascism and blatant nazism with a goal to eradicate all jews. Former nazis in suits, is a fitting description for these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    So far right Neo-Nazi party writes an article to spout far right Neo-Nazi talking points. Credibility of the writers on being truthful = 0%.
    Obviously anything but salon and occupy democrats is hatespeech and fake news.

    HuffPo even published an article that said Trump was right but they have immediately removed it and fired the writer, but if you search for it you can still find the link on google.
    Sweden definitely has a problem and if you don't believe it, just check it out on literally any news channel ever.
    Even Wikipedia has pages about it.
    "Sweden suffers hundreds of grenade attacks per year, a situation otherwise found only in warzones."
    But I guess those are Neo-Nazi lies again

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...acks_in_Sweden

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    lol @ all those people trying to attack the sweden democrats based on their ideologies instead of what they are saying.

    They are talking about real problems, about facts and data and all you guys do is "hurr durr dey like nazis or sumtin hurr durr".

    The part about anti-semitism is really bothering me. 70 years ago right winged people actually killed a lot of jewish people and nowadays you have right winged people caring about them and accepting them because they were born in sweden. That is what I call progress.
    They are calling out where this anti-semitism is coming from. And its not from the right winged side of sweden, but from muslim immigrants.

    Great article thanks for sharing mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    Wake me up when Sweden's crime rate is anywhere near that of the USA.
    Why do you think you can compare the two?

    USA has a different demograpic, different culture, different approach to gun law, etc, etc

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    How dare those Neo-Nazi's be worried for the safety of the Jewish population in their region! THIS IS NOT RIGHT! SWEDEN IS FINE!

    Obviously the Riots were actually a kids party that got blown out of proportion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    lol @ all those people trying to attack the sweden democrats based on their ideologies instead of what they are saying.

    They are talking about real problems, about facts and data and all you guys do is "hurr durr dey like nazis or sumtin hurr durr".

    The part about anti-semitism is really bothering me. 70 years ago right winged people actually killed a lot of jewish people and nowadays you have right winged people caring about them and accepting them because they were born in sweden. That is what I call progress.
    They are calling out where this anti-semitism is coming from. And its not from the right winged side of sweden, but from muslim immigrants.

    Great article thanks for sharing mate
    Yeah it's a sad and kind of strange time when people that are labeled Nazi's are the ones worried about their Jewish Countrymen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Color me shocked that a party with a platform identical to Trump's thinks he is right.
    And they all picture Putin is "the good guy". Figure that...
    "The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabaer View Post
    Obviously anything but salon and occupy democrats is hatespeech and fake news.

    HuffPo even published an article that said Trump was right but they have immediately removed it and fired the writer, but if you search for it you can still find the link on google.
    Sweden definitely has a problem and if you don't believe it, just check it out on literally any news channel ever.
    Even Wikipedia has pages about it.
    "Sweden suffers hundreds of grenade attacks per year, a situation otherwise found only in warzones."
    But I guess those are Neo-Nazi lies again

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...acks_in_Sweden
    Oh dear. Looks like I triggered a load of Neo-Nazi's by calling a bunch of Neo-Nazi's Neo-Nazi's. However will I cope....
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Oh dear. Looks like I triggered a load of Neo-Nazi's by calling a bunch of Neo-Nazi's Neo-Nazi's. However will I cope....
    "Oh dear, I'll just call everyone Neo-Nazis instead of actually using arguments
    I bet everyone thinks I'm really smart"

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    Quote Originally Posted by victork8 View Post
    While calling them neo-nazis is a stretch there sure are certain members of that party that are flat out nazis. It wasn't that long ago their whole platform was based on fascism and blatant nazism with a goal to eradicate all jews. Former nazis in suits, is a fitting description for these guys.
    Lets be real now - they, as a party, isn't an inch closer to nazism than the Left Party is to militant Stalinism. They absolutely have issues, noone tries to deny that, definitely not, but you're exaggerating enough to seem outright ridiculous. I mean, it isn't all that long ago the Left Party actually WAS communist (their former leader comes to mind), and the Social Democrats advocated for eugenics and sterilization of handicapped people (well, actually sterilized them, not only advocated for it). Sure, their ties to a dark past is closer to the here and now (well, not compared to parts of the Left Partys sordid history, it isn't), and they sure as hell need to keep up their policy of throwing out members doing racist and similar things to be taken seriously - but good luck trying to paint their leader in any such light. His behaviour has certainly been impeccable as far as I have seen, and he is clearly one of the more calm and sane participants at party-leader debates. Whether one likes the policies of his party or not.

    Also, lets not pretend that the Left Party, and others close to them in ideology, isn't far, FAR more antisemitic than the Swedish Democrats are, as a party - if anyone has tendencies towards sentiments akin to "eradicate the jews", it sure as hell isn't the party always backing Israel and having several jews in the party leadership. Particularly not when some other parties have openly antisemitic messages in their demonstrations (seen one by the Left Partys youth wing myself, and it was outright disgusting, let me tell you - and I'm certainly not particularly fond of the actions of the state of Israel myself, for that matter).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    lol @ all those people trying to attack the sweden democrats based on their ideologies instead of what they are saying.

    They are talking about real problems, about facts and data and all you guys do is "hurr durr dey like nazis or sumtin hurr durr".

    The part about anti-semitism is really bothering me. 70 years ago right winged people actually killed a lot of jewish people and nowadays you have right winged people caring about them and accepting them because they were born in sweden. That is what I call progress.
    They are calling out where this anti-semitism is coming from. And its not from the right winged side of sweden, but from muslim immigrants.

    Great article thanks for sharing mate
    Only warlocks have any common sense left.

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    Sweden may have problems, just like any other Country does. But Trump's declaration of "look what happened last night!" was inaccurate at best, a complete fabrication at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i9erek View Post
    At least an immigrant getting paid would spend his money in the same country. That money going to China/Asia is not circulating back at all.
    Well, not entirely true, that. In 2014, a study showed that immigrants sent close to 2 billion Euro to their home countries, instead of using them here. That's rather a lot, particularly when compared to such things as the foreign relief budget, and how many of them that are actually employed in the first place. Not that you don't have a point, but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...was-right.html




    We must heed this warning and I hope for the sake of Sweden's future something's gonna change sooner than later.
    We talked about this here at MMO-C the other day but it wasn't on any of the news shows. I wonder why?

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    You mean Sweden's fascist party agrees with Trump?! Well knock me over with a feather. Next you'll tell me that the FNF and the AfD do, as well.
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