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    Gold for Game Token.

    Hey,

    So how do you people earn the gold needed for game tokens now? On EU they are rather pricy (About 170k). Do you put in some extra hours just to farm the gold needed? Or do you casually get it by doing other content?

    Yes, I am looking for tips. I don't want to get stupid rich, and I kinda don't want to sped 30 hours every month farming gold either. I just want a casual way to earn about 150-200k a month, so I don't have to put more money into Blizzard.

    Any tips and tricks for a casual player with restricted time to play the game?
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    Rather spend a few minutes to earn 13€.

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    Yes, casual players can pay with rl money to pay for their subscription. Makes sense right? You lack time to farm gold to pay for sub, so you use rl money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaap View Post
    Yes, casual players can pay with rl money to pay for their subscription. Makes sense right? You lack time to farm gold to pay for sub, so you use rl money.
    i think he's asking more specifically for tips on how to casually make 200k gold a month

    play the AH like a pro i guess...

    use your professions...

    if you're not spunking your money on raiding, you should be able to make plenty with your profs - alchemy is a big winner atm i believe
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    At the current EU token price, I would just pay the sub with money instead of having a constant chase of "must make 180k this month" especially with limited playtime.

    Do you want to play the game for the game or to keep being nagged in the back of your head that you have to spend time to make gold each month.

    That's my personal experience, having anything being "forced" within a time limit to play a game takes most enjoyment out of it, very soon.

    Sure you can make money by gathering a lot, depends on server how lucrative it can be.

    My server is low pop so raw gathering materials seem a bit more expensive then the "mean" prices

    (60g per felslate/fjarn/foxflower makes it somewhat lucrative)

    Of course regular play like emmisarys/ world quest (with follower gold item(s), or professions can and will make money too.

    Dungeon bonus bag can contain 800g, order hall missions can give about 1900-2200.
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    I don't know much about the economy on EU but it's pretty easy over on NA. The tokens are currently around 90k gold, which translates to about 3k/day. I make about 30k a day just buying and selling shit on the AH, so that more or less covers it in about 3 days. Spending ~20 minutes a day total doing it.

    I'm obviously not going to get too specific on exactly what I'm flipping or how, but I will give you a starting point. The BoE cloaks out of Nighthold are a gold mine, people have no idea what they're worth and some people/guilds are just trying to sell fast. Yesterday I bought a ilvl 875 one for 1700g and flipped it to 10k, then later last night I bought a 890 for 3000g and sold it in trade for 30k about 5 minutes later. I also bought a 905 earlier in the week for 80k and flipped that one to 125k the next day. Think I've made damn near 200k total profit off just those cloaks in the past two weeks, simply buying from the AH and selling in trade chat. For some reason I've had way less success with the belts, never see anyone put them up cheap, could just be unlucky/bad timing on my part though.

    There are plenty of ways to make gold without spending hours farming, just gotta decide what works best for your realm and situation. Everyone will make gold differently, even if the overall idea of playing the AH is the same.

    At the same time though, farming for gold isn't even that bad of an idea. Sure you could make $15 in like an hour of actual work, or you could farm the gold for a token in like 3-4 hours of WoW, but if you're having fun playing WoW then it makes that more worth it than spending the money. At least in my opinion, it's a game, if you're having fun and can also play for free (and now can buy future expansions for free) that seems like the best approach.

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    Think about it this way:

    It takes you X minutes of game time to farm 170,000g which would save you €12,99.

    Can you earn €12,99 in less than X minutes? Then you're better off buying the sub.
    If you can make 170,000g in less time than in takes to earn €12,99 then buying a token is your best bet.

    There is no "casual" way to earn the gold requirement for a token. The only "casual" approach is Order Hall quests, and even with a full roster of 850 heroes, you'll be lucky to make an average of 2,000g a day.

    Your only other bet is playing the Auction House, which requires you be able to afford a substantial investment, and be able to take a hit or two if your speculations go south.
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    Im buying them for money, I can make money faster then gold and raiding is really expensive for me (4 flasks (4x800), 40x food (40x90), 40rune (40x240-280), 80x pot (80x25))

    Thats about 19k that I need to take with me for raiding. I usualy dont use them all, still there are some nights of progression, when I do. If my class used normal potion instead of prelong it would be even much more.

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    I don't want to sound disrespectful but how can people not be able to have 13 eu for a game card per month? I reckon most players must be working and 13 eu is basically minimum wage in my country and not a high salary in most places in Europe. I guess most people who work make at least 13 eu per hour. It's one hour of work for a token, can't you spare that?

    And for kids, you either get some allowance from your parents or money from school (many countries pay you to study in Europe) or money from somewhere. If you are not working and get 0 money from your parents or other sources, you might have bigger problems than being able to pay the month subscription :O

    I mean if you value time/energy, you have to make 170k gold in less than an hour to make it worth it. I don't think that many people do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucati View Post
    I'm obviously not going to get too specific on exactly what I'm flipping or how, but I will give you a starting point. The BoE cloaks out of Nighthold are a gold mine, people have no idea what they're worth and some people/guilds are just trying to sell fast. Yesterday I bought a ilvl 875 one for 1700g and flipped it to 10k, then later last night I bought a 890 for 3000g and sold it in trade for 30k about 5 minutes later. I also bought a 905 earlier in the week for 80k and flipped that one to 125k the next day. Think I've made damn near 200k total profit off just those cloaks in the past two weeks, simply buying from the AH and selling in trade chat. For some reason I've had way less success with the belts, never see anyone put them up cheap, could just be unlucky/bad timing on my part though.
    Wish anyone in the EU luck with that...

    On Sylvanas there is so many spammed on the AH that once you get past the 100 or so 850-870 ilevel range you'd have to invest about 250,000g just to clear them out to flip. Even then there's a solid chance you'll just be undercut immediately.

    Unless you're very wealth to start with, this kind of AH play isn't really viable.
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    Now the game token is worth $15. It is very close to cash if you play Hearthstone/HotS.
    You are competing with underage kids who cannot work.

    Their value is $1 per hour, not the minimum wage.

    (In a poor country, the minimum wage is $1. It made things worse.)

    Edit: What Blizzard did is illegal.
    First, people pay no tax on that $15 "income".

    Second, it "forces" underage kids to work.
    These kids are supposed to study in school.
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    Ironically I am very stingy on paying 20€ for transfers or 25€ for faction changes, but thats far larger amounts then 11-13€ a month, especially since I now have 5x level 110.

    Right now I keep reaping the benefits of my low pop server by making gold off it, also it doesn't seem as infested with bots yet thankfully.

    I did convert most of my gold to game tokens a few weeks ago, but not for playtime and the price has gone up with 30-40k since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battlebeard View Post
    I don't want to sound disrespectful but how can people not be able to have 13 eu for a game card per month? I reckon most players must be working and 13 eu is basically minimum wage in my country and not a high salary in most places in Europe. I guess most people who work make at least 13 eu per hour. It's one hour of work for a token, can't you spare that?

    And for kids, you either get some allowance from your parents or money from school (many countries pay you to study in Europe) or money from somewhere. If you are not working and get 0 money from your parents or other sources, you might have bigger problems than being able to pay the month subscription :O

    I mean if you value time/energy, you have to make 170k gold in less than an hour to make it worth it. I don't think that many people do that.
    In some Eastern European countries the cost of living is much lower, but the subscription price remains the same.
    So relatively speaking, they are well off for their own economy, but €12,99 is still a significant luxury.
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    There is no easy way to earn that amount of gold within a mount without investing time into it, even with playing the AH. What im thinking are two things

    1)Make tank/healer hybrid with ench/alchemie proffesion.
    Run dungeons when there is CTA bag. It drops ~800g, one to three Bloods and one to five runes. 1 Rune sells for around 500-700g depending on server and with bloods u can buy herbs to craft pots/flask that sell for a lot too. And with enchanter you DE the loot gathered while doing that and sell enchants ofc that also sell for good amount of gold. Also put Bloodhunter shoulder enchant on every toon you play and transform all the bloods into herbs->flask/pot.

    2)Make a combat ally with with 50g+25g bonus for completing WQ. And make all the gold missions at 200% chance for the extra cash.

    Like that you should be able to "casualy" make around ~150k gold a month maybe even more. And you will get more gold "passively" while playing the game too.

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    Play the AH or use your professions as well as farm old heroic raids, Cataclysm and MOP raids to be more specific since these will net you some nice amounts of gold in a pretty short time (there are better ways than farming old raids if gold is all you're after, but they can be fun and give some vanity items such as mounts etc).
    I made 50k last week and I wasn't farming for gold, doing old raids for mounts, mining veins I came across in my travels, selling the gems I got from my shoulder gem enchant, disenchanting epics I didn't need from WQs and LFR (havent actually sold those crystals, but the stack I've gathered in the past week is another ~15k should I decide to).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgummage View Post
    Wish anyone in the EU luck with that...

    On Sylvanas there is so many spammed on the AH that once you get past the 100 or so 850-870 ilevel range you'd have to invest about 250,000g just to clear them out to flip. Even then there's a solid chance you'll just be undercut immediately.

    Unless you're very wealth to start with, this kind of AH play isn't really viable.
    Sorry maybe I should have been more specific, I don't clear them out and flip them that way, I simply buy when they get posted on the AH way under average. For example the 875 cloaks usually sell for about 12k on my server, so if someone posts one on the AH for 3k I just buy it and spam trade for 10k and it usually sells within a couple minutes. The 905 ones usually sell for between 120k-150k so if someone posts one for 100k I just buy it and sell on trade right away. Obviously for the higher ilvl ones you need a lot of gold to start off with, but for the 875-880 ones people sometimes post for 1500-4000g and they can easily be sold for more. I very very rarely sell epic items on the AH, I just sell them in trade.

    I actually haven't tried buying out and reselling all of anything on the AH, though I've heavily considered it a few times I'm too much of a beta bitch to actually do it I guess. I make almost all my gold simply buying auctions when people put them up cheap and then reselling either in trade if it's a piece of gear or just back on the AH if it's a gem/enchant/herb/ore/etc. Addons help with this so you know what everything is worth and can easily see when people put stuff on the AH for like 20% market value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    Edit: What Blizzard did is illegal.
    First, people pay no tax on that $15 "income".

    Second, it "forces" underage kids to work.
    These kids are supposed to study in school.
    If you think that, sue Blizzard.

    But, as the money can't leave Blizzard's ecosystem, it's not real income.

    Kids also aren't even closed to forced to work, even if it was work, since you can do quite well without good cards in HS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battlebeard View Post
    I don't want to sound disrespectful but how can people not be able to have 13 eu for a game card per month? I reckon most players must be working and 13 eu is basically minimum wage in my country and not a high salary in most places in Europe. I guess most people who work make at least 13 eu per hour. It's one hour of work for a token, can't you spare that?

    And for kids, you either get some allowance from your parents or money from school (many countries pay you to study in Europe) or money from somewhere. If you are not working and get 0 money from your parents or other sources, you might have bigger problems than being able to pay the month subscription :O

    I mean if you value time/energy, you have to make 170k gold in less than an hour to make it worth it. I don't think that many people do that.
    Depends entirely on where you live, there are places like Bulgaria where the minimum wage reached an all time high in the past months and is sitting at €235 per month, that's around €1.35 per hour.
    All of eastern Europe have less than €1000 AVERAGE, and a lot of those countries has less than €500 per month, only western Europe has €2000+ averages with the exception of Portugal which is under €1000 and Spain around €1500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    Now the game token is worth $15. It is very close to cash if you play Hearthstone/HotS.
    You are competing with underage kids who cannot work.

    Their value is $1 per hour, not the minimum wage.

    (In a poor country, the minimum wage is $1. It made things worse.)

    Edit: What Blizzard did is illegal.
    First, people pay no tax on that $15 "income".

    Second, it "forces" underage kids to work.
    These kids are supposed to study in school.
    It's not illegal at all, it's "fake" currency like your typical mobile game diamonds/credits/hearts whatever, you can only spend it digitally and not buy any physical goods.

    Blizzard digital games are not owned by the player, you only buy a license to their servers pretty much.

    A €20 to 180000 gold vs $99 to 12000 (-insert mobile game gems-) conversion is pretty similar.

    €13 battlenet balance isn't €13 I can cash in and spend outside the digital store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feederino Senpai View Post
    Hey,

    So how do you people earn the gold needed for game tokens now? On EU they are rather pricy (About 170k). Do you put in some extra hours just to farm the gold needed? Or do you casually get it by doing other content?

    Yes, I am looking for tips. I don't want to get stupid rich, and I kinda don't want to sped 30 hours every month farming gold either. I just want a casual way to earn about 150-200k a month, so I don't have to put more money into Blizzard.

    Any tips and tricks for a casual player with restricted time to play the game?
    At this point $15 usd is more worth it to me than that much gold. Back when they were 30-60k it was one thing but its just out of control at this point. $15 a month may be alot for you but for most of us its a small drop in the bucket.

    In the time an average non AH savvy player is going to spend farming that much gold you could had made 10 times that in USD

    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    Now the game token is worth $15. It is very close to cash if you play Hearthstone/HotS.
    You are competing with underage kids who cannot work.

    Their value is $1 per hour, not the minimum wage.

    (In a poor country, the minimum wage is $1. It made things worse.)

    Edit: What Blizzard did is illegal.
    First, people pay no tax on that $15 "income".

    Second, it "forces" underage kids to work.
    These kids are supposed to study in school.
    If you are playing online unsupervised you should AT-LEAST be old enough to go mow lawns like many of us did for money. IF you are under 13 you #1 should not be on these forums #2 Not be playing the game unsupervised as the ESRB is T for teen 13 and up. With that said that makes the above point moot.
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