Addons & Friendly Nameplates in Patch 7.2

[ls-]

what the texture is doesn't matter, only the ability of it to be changed matters. so why must all texture category changes be blocked instead of just the problem texture category.

Logic behind texture changes isn't related to texture itself, everything is done elsewhere, and can't be prevented, the only way to prevent such things would be to disable aura API in instances In the end only textures `:SetSize` and/or `:SetPoint`\`:SetAllPoints` methods are called, if Blizz blocked these methods, you'd say bye-bye to nameplate customisation anyway, cuz one has to use these methods to place a texture on a frame

And there are no texture categories, literally all textures are objects that return `object:GetObjectType() -> 'Texture'`. There. Is. No. Difference. Between. Any. Textures.

[stevenho]

Disallow retexturing in combat.
Problem solved.

[Charge me Doctor]

Disallow retexturing in combat.
Problem solved.

So, you have you fancy nameplates out of combat, but when you enter combat they turn back into a pumpkin? How is that better? Or you want all nameplates to literally freeze and don't change while you are in combat?

[ls-]

Back in draenor? How does this shit still worked in EN then?

It required a lot of work to do, but, IIRC, we were told about it in IRC before Legion's release, they announced it publically so late, cuz they weren't sure they'd make it

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It's the same thing, debuff texture = health bar texture.

it's obviously not the same thing to a lay person since you can move them independently, you can turn them on/off indepentendly, and they aren't always present at the same time.

i get that you can write a addon that says "when debuff is there, change color of healthbar" or w/e.

so why can't the function that enables that be made forbidden for friendly name plates.

like honestly i refuse to believe it's impossible to come up with a more elegant solution then the one being implemented.

[ls-]

Disallow retexturing in combat.
Problem solved.

Kek.

That'd kill all aura mods, cuz icons on aura buttons are textures, in many cases that'd kill unit frames too... Nice solution you got there, mate

[Lithix]

I wonder how raiders are going to survive this change considering how it's the first time Blizzard has ever broken a feature from an addon that completely trivializes a mechanic.

They going to have to just re-adjust. It did make the encounter's very manageable. Kudos to those smart people who make these weakauras/addons up man.

[stevenho]

Or you want all nameplates to literally freeze and don't change while you are in combat?

This. But obviously HP display would still have to work.

[ls-]

it's obviously not the same thing to a lay person since you can move them independently, you can turn them on/off indepentendly, and they aren't always present at the same time.

i get that you can write a addon that says "when debuff is there, change color of healthbar" or w/e.

so why can't the function that enables that be made forbidden for friendly name plates.

like honestly i refuse to believe it's impossible to come up with a more elegant solution then the one being implemented.

He's right though.. Health bar texture and any other texture are the same thing, they are different objects (or instances if you like this word more) of the same class (Texture in our case) It means what can be done w/ one, can be done w/ another.

[stevenho]

That'd kill all aura mods, cuz icons on aura buttons are textures, in many cases that'd kill unit frames too... Nice solution you got there, mate

Yeah cause the current design is fixed in stone forever and can't ever be changed.

[ls-]

Yeah cause the current design is fixed in stone forever and can't ever be changed.

No-no-no, that's not what I meant... If they disabled all retexturing in combat, it'd mean that `AuraButton.icon:SetTexture(texture_id_here)` wouldn't work

[Nnyco]

i always found friendly name plates very annoyin and cluttered, only time i used em was durin legion event on my monk to heal people because there were no groups

[stevenho]

all retexturing

Disable friendly nameplate retexturing only.

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i always found friendly name plates very annoyin and cluttered, only time i used em was durin legion event on my monk to heal people because there were no groups

Have you seen what KUI name only mode looks like?

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He's right though.. Health bar texture and any other texture are the same thing, they are different objects (or instances if you like this word more) of the same class (Texture in our case) It means what can be done w/ one, can be done w/ another.

to try another anology: i've heard you cannot make a addon that changes for example the texture of a wall to a different one. you make it sound like this would be easily doable.

or another analogy: why not change the texture of the debuffed players gear/model instead of the nameplate?

[ls-]

Disable friendly nameplate retexturing only.

Essentially that's what they did, they opted for spawning intact default friendly nameplates, cuz one could enable some nasty shit before entering combat, obv, it wouldn't be as responsive, and way less precise, but it'd be abused anyway. This way nothing goes through

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to try another anology: i've heard you cannot make a addon that changes for example the texture of a wall to a different one. you make it sound like this would be easily doable.

or another analogy: why not change the texture of the debuffed players gear instead of the nameplate?

You don't understand the difference between UI rendering and world/character rendering. We have no access to world rendering from Lua.

[Charge me Doctor]

to try another anology: i've heard you cannot make a addon that changes for example the texture of a wall to a different one. you make it sound like this would be easily doable.

or another analogy: why not change the texture of the debuffed players gear/model instead of the nameplate?

you cannot change a texture of an object using an addon afaik

[stevenho]

one could enable some nasty shit before entering combat, obv, it wouldn't be as responsive, and way less precise, but it'd be abused anyway. This way nothing goes through

I don't think you can come up with even 1 example of what nasty shit could be done.
But yeah, they chose the lazy approach of curing a headache via decapitation.

[Deleted]

You don't understand the difference between UI rendering and world/character rendering. We have no access to world rendering from Lua.

yes. exactly. lua prevents this.

but you guys say that a lua restriction or other code restriction for this particular problem would be impossible to code in for this particular problem, no matter how much work.

[ls-]

I don't think you can come up with even 1 example of what nasty shit could be done.
But yeah, they chose the lazy approach of curing a headache via decapitation.

Circles around characters

Simply figure out how close/far people can stand to/from each other, that's what people who develop strategies do, lock camera distance to a certain value, so it wouldn't interfere w/ anything, draw these circles w/ said radius around all characters, enter combar. Obv I'm assuming texture recolouring is disabled too, cuz then it'd be abused too

[Deleted]

you cannot change a texture of an object using an addon afaik

why not. and why can't a similar technique not be applied to this problem with some coding on blizz part.