Push to lower age to vote.

[TITAN308]

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-george-soros/

In California, Democratic legislators introduced this week a landmark bill, ACA 10, that would give the Golden State the nation’s youngest statewide voting age by lowering the threshold from 18 to 17 in the name of reversing the slide in voter turnout.

Personally I think the age of 18 right now is far to low. Lack of critical thinking and easy to manipulate into the "what do they give me" arena.

[TITAN308]

They should push it to 16.

*looks at who posted it*
Okaaay.

Are you capable of posting anything without taking it personal?

[Xargoth6634]

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-george-soros/



Personally I think the age of 18 right now is far to low. Lack of critical thinking and easy to manipulate into the "what do they give me" arena.

I agree. The last thing we need is more social media-obsessed, braindead millenials voting. There should really be poll tests administered before votes checking for a basic understanding of where your preferred candidate stands on, say, 5 issues. But hey, wouldn't wanna disenfranchise people who don't care enough to educate themselves on the candidates or anything.

[Eazy]

They should push it to 16.
It's nonsense that people should live such a long time under a government they never elected.

*looks at who posted it*
Okaaay.

*12

just for the lols

[zenkai]

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-george-soros/



Personally I think the age of 18 right now is far to low. Lack of critical thinking and easy to manipulate into the "what do they give me" arena.

Fuck that, especially since 18 year olds are no wear near as mature has 50 years ago. Hell if anything people should have to take the same test as immigrants do, and if they can't pass that test they can't vote.

[LaserSharkDFB]

I agree. The last thing we need is more social media-obsessed, braindead millenials voting. There should really be poll tests administered before votes checking for a basic understanding of where your preferred candidate stands on, say, 5 issues. But hey, wouldn't wanna disenfranchise people who don't care enough to educate themselves on the candidates or anything.

>implying the general voting population is much better

And nobody could have answered during the campaign how Trump stood on 5 issues. Just sayin'.

[Kathandira]

Lack of critical thinking and easy to manipulate into the "what do they give me" arena.

That is basically the majority of voters already. lol

[Cthulhu 2020]

Yes let's restrict voting to white males over the age of 30. Oh and make your vote count 5 times if you own land. That'll show those libtards!

With all the gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement (NC deleting tons of urban voters from the rolls right before the election lulz) I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP's next move was to raise the voting age by many years.

[Sevyvia]

Personally I think the age of 18 right now is far to low. Lack of critical thinking and easy to manipulate into the "what do they give me" arena.

I'm from a European country where the age is 18, too, and honestly, I agree with you. 20 would be a step in the right direction, 25 probably a better threshold. The vast, vast majority of people are effectively still teenagers from 18 until their mid-twenties.

[Independent voter]

The voter turn out for 18 year olds is abysmal, it's like 20% on a good day.

[Deleted]

they can vote 10 times per person in California if they want would be funny if Trump loses popular vote again in 2020 and gets elected

[Cthulhu 2020]

I believe that was his entire point

"I'm going to have no less than 4 stances on any one issue. That way I can confuse my base into believing I'm going to give them what they want no matter what their stance is!"

[Underverse]

I don't think there should be an age threshold. I think there should be a test you should have to pass that demonstrates basic critical thinking skills as well as basic knowledge about items you will vote for. Some 14 year olds might pass. Some 20 year olds might not. Age isn't a good indicator here, I think. You could hard cap at 12 if you want just to be safe.

[Cthulhu 2020]

they can vote 10 times per person in California if they want would be funny if Trump loses popular vote again in 2020 and gets elected

Yes, because of how the EC works, a vote in Wyoming is worth about 20x as much as a vote in California, going by ratio of EC votes that state is worth to its voting population.

[Underverse]

they can vote 10 times per person in California if they want would be funny if Trump loses popular vote again in 2020 and gets elected

Funny is one word for it. I would have gone with abysmally inconsistent with the founding principles of America.

[Saluna]

My personal opinion is that voting age should not be lowered. At 16 most teenagers are not even sure what they want to do in the future, they are in no way ready to make a choice that will affect your country/state/province future.

Voting is not only casting a vote for what you prefer, it's also stating what type of future you want your country to take. The younger you are, the less experience you have to take real thoughts. Your opinion is easily malleable, (some people are still like that when adults, but it reduces).

If you can't drink at 18 because you are not enough responsible, why would you be responsible enough to vote?

[Allybeboba]

This forum gets more entertaining every day.

[kasuke06]

My personal opinion is that voting age should not be lowered. At 16 most teenagers are not even sure what they want to do in the future, they are in no way ready to make a choice that will affect your country/state/province future.

Voting is not only casting a vote for what you prefer, it's also stating what type of future you want your country to take. The younger you are, the less experience you have to take real thoughts. Your opinion is easily malleable, (some people are still like that when adults, but it reduces).

If you can't drink at 18 because you are not enough responsible, why would you be responsible enough to vote?

Funny part is it used to be 21 to vote. but it got changed because of the draft "old enough to fight, old enough to vote!"

[Crissi]

Frankly, a lot of our age based laws are mish mashed and make little sense. Can smoke and join the army and vote at 18, cant drink til 21, and many car places need you to be 25 to rent, and you can drop out at 16.

THe drinking age one especially. Either we're not responsible enoguh yet, in which case we shouldnt be allowed to smoke, drink, or join the millitary, or we are and the 21 is just arbitrary.

[Fugus]

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-george-soros/



Personally I think the age of 18 right now is far to low. Lack of critical thinking and easy to manipulate into the "what do they give me" arena.

While I also think 18 is a good age to vote as that is the age when you are officially an adult. The whole part about their ability to lack critical thinking and easy to manipulate, goes a bit too far.

In that vein you would also be pushing for them to cap the voting age at 50 as above that age they lost touch with how the world really is and are easy to manipulate about a world they no longer had to endure based on rose tinted goggles of the history that never was let alone all the mental problems that start developing with age.

Much of our issues nowadays actually comes from that generation voting against the best interests of the nation because of either personal greed or because they are voting about stuff they don't understand.