We just used Light's heart to bring Illidans soul back to his body. It doesn't really make sense that the light would meld well with a demon soul, but it seems like Illidan now has some light inside him if he likes it or not. Well, if xera was even a light based entity. You'd think O'ros or Velen would have noticed if it wasnt though.
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IIRC, the Pantheon is dead, however there are other Titans that were not part of that elite sect. This may have been changed though?
Illidan didn't sacrifice much in the end of the line. Or at least, he didn't sacrifice much of himself. He sacrificed his Moon Guards so that he could gain more power. Becoming a Demon Hunter is just another way to gain power. Becoming a demon too. I find it telling that the last vision Illidan had before dying was the lecture Cenarius gave him about sacrifice and how he cannot understand what it means. Two things he forgot to sacrifice : his love for Tyrande and his inflated ego. Unable to accept that Tyrande loved his brother, Illidan always tried to gain more power to show off to her. One of his motivation to kill his Moon Guards was to protect Suramar... because Tyrande was there. He's unable to accept that she may die. He believes that he is the one who will destroy the Legion, so everyone else is just a mean to an end. He's unable to understand that he's expendable too. Result: everyone think he's a dick and finally kill him. Illidan may be necessary to fight the Legion, but obviously Xe'ra thinks that we are important too. And I'm beginning to wonder if Xe'ra showed us Illidan's life has a counter-exemple of what not to follow.
"Je vous répondrai par la bouche de mes canons!"
Amber eyes are not gonna disappear just because you don't decide to pursue Druidism. It's their eyes. They re not gonna lose it just because they don't follow certain path. It's the same thing as antlers. You can be born with them and they will stay on your head even if you don't become a druid.
Your premise is entirely wrong that you can earn them by doing druidism must mean you can also lose them by not doing druidism. The eyes do not need some sort of druidic power to maintain them lol. You can lose them by just destroying them like Sargeras did to Illidan.
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not only that, we have no idea whether druidsm and amber eyes is separate unrelated to destiny golden eyes as neither Azshara nor Illidan seem to have anything to do with nature magic.
That change could have simply come in to justify the in-game character creation choice, and could be written to also occur in addition to destiny eyes. It even could be that druid golden eyes come only in development, not via birth, and those born with golden eyes are the ones marked with destiny, not those who develop them.
The lore only says they have occurred more often recently because of nature, doesn't specify how does it? = It just seems some a really quick to dismiss night elven things as trivial .. but I don't blame them, the lore has tended to take things they wrote about night elves originally and just made them either hoaxes, gross exaggerations - downgrading so much about them and really taking off the wonder and shine in them - i.e. straight up nerf.. e.g. we made golden eyes to be something so remarkable and mysterious - ah well we'll just reveal them to be simple cause of nature. We made Elune to be something amazing, ah well we'll just reveal her to be a naaru. We made out night elves to be incredible ah well, they're just ordinary ladies who need a lot of help. Wow has seen a lot of original night elf lore, some of the coolest things just changed or revealed to be no where near what they were hinted at - a straight up nerf, and it was nerfing all through wow.
If that was their intention all along, they are very cruel to do that, present someone like a special snowflake than later show it to be not even close. I'm surprised they didn't rewrite the super intelligence/strength bit or even the longevity bit - oh wait - they just wrote them to behave like idiots most of the time, appear nothing like ancients, more like tweens in their grasp of literally everything, made them wrong about their most sacred beliefs, and as for strength - they made them one of the most pansy races in wow - i.e. the descriptions are inaccurate, they lie - never seen any "high intelligence" in night elf behaviour in wow, nor any boosted strength, and if it wasn't mentioned that they had lived 10k years, I would not believe they were older than your average goblin.
yeah, take wonder of your own race that many like, and gut it - it wasn't even necessary to make trolls look good, or orcs look good, you could have achieved that without changing the night elves
Amber eyes doesn't mean shit.
Illidan had a Good destiny, Azshara had a Horrible one.
Khadgar was a man with great potential.
Anduin was BORN with a legacy for Bother The Alliance, And the Horde.
Illidan will be the child of light/shadow.
Azshara is wanting to KILL everyone, with the powers that both Azeroths titan, as well as sargeras hate....
You're right. I'm not taking her seriously, mainly because She and her naga are working to kill us, as well as corrupting this titan....
Quit acting as if she's even remotely good.
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Well, ya gotta admit:
Even in those horrible thing, he made some pretty nice af entrances....
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Also @Raven
Druidism, and Amber eyes ARE seperate...
Illidan was BORN with amber eyes, Malfurion EARNED them....
Well the loss of his limbs was because of his recklessness, but the torture suit increased his power as the dark side feeds off of pain and rage, but he still wasn't as powerful as he could have been.
Anyways signs of great destiny doesn't always mean it's gonna be roses and sunshine or that the person is even gonna turn out good.
That was the old canon, he's doing flips and shit easily in his suit in the new canon.
Anyways on topic I still so t think that haveing golden/amber eyes is going to magically make you amazing and it's still. A sign of Druidic magic and sometimes a great potential for it
Problem is, unlike Anakin, neither Azshara nor Illidan's story is finished. And it looks like Illidan whom we thought done and unfulfilled might actually fulfil his destiny. I like that, at least 1 night elf might actually do something truly remarkable - usually reserved for an orc (thrall) or human (Take your pick)
As I said the context of sacrifice was more than for others, it was personal and others in his path. Which is why I said more than one context here, he sacrificed others, he sacrificed things going for himself just bundled it up, I know the story but the point of the exercise was, why do Azshara and Illidan still have them?
With Illidan we saw videos that was more about destiny and of course druids were involved but was to inform us he couldn't get there and also chose not to. With Xe'ra about, they have another insight to being akin to destiny at least for Illidan because obviously he's a current figure in lore, still waiting on Azshara though the model used in the game with Farondis had more warmer tone eyes but that's a little iffy. My train of thought was if it is solely representing druidic power in the examples of Illidan and Azshara it doesn't make much sense when despite all the years of going against what we believe druidism is about (and the magic school) both have used and abused everyone around them for their own gain which doesn't seem very druidy haha, why they still got them? Potential or no, both will not go into that walk of life after the Legion have been in their lives.
Not much on Azshara of course, her time will come but what bothers me the most is the newer models like Cenarius and Malfurion (and from Cataclysm too) lack those distinctive eyes you know? They wouldn't been so keen to let that slip after in Cataclysm there was an outcry when the Queen Azshara first released lacked golden eyes so I can't see them doing that now when they are becoming stickler's for their own lore with the Chronicles series. People are generally more into the lore and know it than before. Also including with the new strain of lore that well, steps away from the whole premise of druidism and all about the destiny vibe. That's all I am saying, just doesn't sit right with me 100% because it looks like it's lacking a small bit to complete the puzzle, say like why Azeroth was always attacked was unknown until the world soul explanation gave it clarity. Just waiting for that segment on the golden eyes. I just was explaining that despite it is about druidism, there's a few things that are opposite to it and was giving some examples of what goes against the form not saying they're were real but hypothesis more so.
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I honestly enjoyed their changes to Illidans story until the whole "hero of the light" bs started. I enjoyed having him as a anti-hero who did a lot of terrible shit to stop the legion. Now he'll just be the typical super saiyan screaming with him golden aura. Wouldn't be shocked of we finish Sargeras with a group Kamehameha.
Malfurion did save Azeroth at least 3 times. You do not get more remarkable than that. I don't think any human or orc even comes close to that. He also did it without boasting about the whole destiny thing. You don't need "destiny" to choose you to do great things. You just freaking do it.
Night elves have done lots of things but they are not just individuals you are obsessed over, so you tend to overlook them.
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It would be hilarious but I won't be surprised. Illidan turning into Kerrigan and shooting beam at Sargeras will be even more funny though.
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I think Burning Crusade damaged Illidan, but Legion was final nail into the coffin.
I absolutely hate this twisted messiah thing they pulled off. For me he lost all his human qualities you could relate to. I enjoyed when he was a tragic hero doing all kind of nasty stuff with dual intentions, to gain more power and try to help his nation or loved ones. All his intentions were not as bad, just his methods were questionable. Then they tried to make him a monster to justify him being a boss, so he lost all his redeemable qualities.
Now it all feels so weird, like listening to a doctor from Auschwitz who did all his research about hypothermia on subjects without any regards for their life. Yes, pretty much all we know about hypothermia is out of those experiments, but is it right to just suddenly be okay with it because an Ice Age stuck in?
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