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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i just wonder if these people get outraged over signs warning you not to go into the carnivore exhibits at zoos.

    is it just as triggering to point out the fact that if you ignore warnings and put yourself in a dangerous area, you will get mauled to death?
    Let me ask you a question? Do you believe that if every woman in the world stopped drinking tomorrow, that rapes over the next year would go down a sizable amount?

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhinged View Post
    Sure. But you are still blaming the victim with this statement. Are taking precautions necessary. Yes because there are a lot of scum out there.

    Everyone knows this and what the judge did makes it harder for other victims to come forward and makes it harder for this victim to move on.
    Im not blaming anyone. Just saing its dangerous world outhere and you have to be strong to survive.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by browed View Post
    A better analogy would be: 'buckle up in your car, it makes sense.. there are lots of idiots out there on the road'
    And you know what's worse?
    They made it ILLEGAL not to wear a seat-belt!!!

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Unhinged View Post
    Retiring has nothing to do with it. You still sack her to make an example of it.
    She was right.

    I suppose you could sack her if you were her boss. Fortunately for her, you're a poster on the MMO-Champion general offtopic forums.
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    An alcoholic fighting his addiction is fighting a jihad.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Unhinged View Post
    Let me ask you a question? Do you believe that if every woman in the world stopped drinking tomorrow, that rapes over the next year would go down a sizable amount?
    a good portion might either not happen, or change to attempted rapes because at least the person would be able to fight.

    it's about personal responsibility though. the world isn't a magical dream, and you're never EVER going to stop all rapes(unless you use eugenics and human experimentation to make us much more robotic). you don't take a walk through the tiger exhibit, you don't take a walk through a dark alley way or a bad neighborhood, it's the same principle here. you don't put yourself in a dangerous situation without at least taking some precautions.

    if you're so pathetic you just have to get blackout drunk, at least bring a sober girl friend with you to help.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhinged View Post
    Let me ask you a question? Do you believe that if every woman in the world stopped drinking tomorrow, that rapes over the next year would go down a sizable amount?
    A, not what was said, B, Yes.

  7. #47
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    The comparisons with sharks and tigers are hilarious.

  8. #48
    Its also recommended by police to wear your purse near your body and not in bags to prevent thiefs from reaching it without you noticing it. Is this victim blaming too or just common sense?

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonely zergling View Post
    Its also recommended by police to wear your purse near your body and not in bags to prevent thiefs from reaching it without you noticing it. Is this victim blaming too or just common sense?
    Only if the putative victim is a woman.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Unhinged View Post
    Rape is illegal for a good reason. There is zero excuses to rape anyone ever.

    As far as I am concerned this judge is stupid and should be sacked immediately. This is like saying you shouldn't buy windows for your house because it will give robbers a veiw inside and it's far easier to break a window than a wall. You deserve to have your stuff stolen.

    Also what does feminism have to do with this, it's not some boogeyman out to get you, here they have a very sensible point. Victim blaming is pointless in all crimes as it never addresses the problem with the perpetrators and why they commit the crime in the first place.
    Windows DO provide robbers with easier access to your house to rob you, moron.

    What the judge is saying is not to NOT buy windows. But make sure to put some protection over said windows to prevent you from being robbed.
    STRESS
    The confusion caused when one's mind
    overrides the body's basic
    desire to choke the living shit out of
    some jerk who desperately needs it

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchbrownie View Post
    The comparisons with sharks and tigers are hilarious.
    it's the same principle. a rapist is a predator, little more than an animal. they should not be given full personhood, their humanity should be stripped from them.

    they're filth, they should be taken and experimented on to determine why they are the way they are.

  12. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torto View Post
    A retiring judge issued a common sense warning to women who like to get overly drunk, saying they are "a target because they are less likely to put up a fight".


    Yet for stating the obvious the feminists have come out and condemned her for victim blaming. This is ridiculous, she is not excusing rapists she is just making the sensible point that women should protect themselves. Victim's groups claim:



    Full story here:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ken-women.html

    Just how far do we absolve people from any responsibility for their own protection?
    It -is- victim blaming.
    The point shouldnt be that women shouldnt get plastered, nor that men are rapemonsters that cant control themselves when they find a drunk woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoblinP View Post
    Clearly but there are two parties in any rape (by definition that's the minimum).
    Making rape illegal only touches one of those parties.

    For pointing out that one of the most victimized groups of people out there are drunk?

    No but you shouldn't leave your door unlocked.

    Because feminist idiots spew this nonsense.

    No, No its not.
    Either women have agency, or not.
    If they don't have agency, then the correct way to treat them is like children, I find that barbarous, you might disagree.
    Do we blame a murder victim for getting killed too?

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    Rapists everywhere agree with the outrage. They can only dream of a wonderful world where there are no such things as offensive warnings or precautions against their methods of luring their prey in.
    74% of rape (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape..._United_States) is committed by family, partners and freinds. So by this judges logic, females should really stop seeing there freinds, disconnect themsleves from family or better yet just completely remove themsleves from society as that really is the best way to avoid rapists. This is just the same drivel as wearing slutty clothes is inviting rape and harassment.

  14. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    it's the same principle. a rapist is a predator, little more than an animal. they should not be given full personhood, their humanity should be stripped from them.

    they're filth, they should be taken and experimented on to determine why they are the way they are.
    So we should put them down like an animal?

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by RyanEX View Post
    Windows DO provide robbers with easier access to your house to rob you, moron.

    What the judge is saying is not to NOT buy windows. But make sure to put some protection over said windows to prevent you from being robbed.
    Yes windows do make it easy to rob a house. But you don't find judges laying blame on victims for having windows do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    It -is- victim blaming.
    The point shouldnt be that women shouldnt get plastered, nor that men are rapemonsters that cant control themselves when they find a drunk woman.

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    Do we blame a murder victim for getting killed too?
    One mmo champ we do. Because they deserve it as they didn't take enough precautions to not get murdered.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Unhinged View Post
    Rape is illegal for a good reason. There is zero excuses to rape anyone ever.

    As far as I am concerned this judge is stupid and should be sacked immediately. This is like saying you shouldn't buy windows for your house because it will give robbers a veiw inside and it's far easier to break a window than a wall. You deserve to have your stuff stolen.

    Also what does feminism have to do with this, it's not some boogeyman out to get you, here they have a very sensible point. Victim blaming is pointless in all crimes as it never addresses the problem with the perpetrators and why they commit the crime in the first place.
    Being drunk as a subject in this case is not an "excuse" to be raped it's a risk factor, more often than not, especially at colleges, both parties are drunk

    What does feminism have to do with this? More specifically third wave feminism, which isn't about equality but about envy of men's natural roles in society and hatred of women's traditional roles, typically people that subscribe to this incarnation of feminism trivialize rape to something like regretful sex lol

    Just like they trivialize women's rights to aborting babies

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Unhinged View Post
    74% of rape (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape..._United_States) is committed by family, partners and freinds. So by this judges logic, females should really stop seeing there freinds, disconnect themsleves from family or better yet just completely remove themsleves from society as that really is the best way to avoid rapists. This is just the same drivel as wearing slutty clothes is inviting rape and harassment.
    Are you actually interested in the hearing the incredibly simple retort to your post or are you just interested in intentionally disagreeing with as many people as possible?

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchbrownie View Post
    So we should put them down like an animal?
    just killing them would be a waste, and i do hate the idea of killing something.

    no, we should experiment on them until they die. if they die, at least it was for a good cause.

  19. #59
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    feminist look at every situation as a one sided coin, that makes them inherently flawed (and imo annoying).

    If a judge says a guy getting wasted on booze has a bigger chance of getting mugged or robbed you wont see male activist grps (do these even exist?) spouting rubbish.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    It -is- victim blaming.
    No, no it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    Do we blame a murder victim for getting killed too?
    If someone puts themselves in harm's way (read the many examples in this thread), they are increasing their own risk. That's stupid. It's not their fault, but not only did they not take easily available precautions, they made it easier for said thing happen to them.

    The world is not some place that you can magically waltz through and say, "nothing bad will should ever happen to me because all the bad things are illegal." Grow up. JFC.

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