Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
Ransath is an xenophobe and racist. He's made it pretty clear from the many months he has been on these boards. He's a white supremacist too if I remember correctly, thinks that there is some sort of planned race replacement of whites going on, white genocide that sort of thing. That's why he makes topic posts like this.
Since when do criminals deserve freedom?
These people broke the law entering the country illegally, they then broke other laws and were arrested. ICE then requested that these individuals who PROVED they were NOT helping OUR society be detained for pickup by ICE.
This list isn't about that migrant worker out in the fields who is PROVING to be a help to OUR society.
So again, I must ask, how many crimes must a person not legally in the US commit before you are okay with them being deported?
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How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
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How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
The existence of a law is never a justification for it. The slave owners said the exact same thing when their slaves started to escape.
This is absolutely about migrant workers, Trump and others have made it quite clear. The push is to deport all illegals.
I base things on harm, not on crimes. Every single adult I know is a criminal. Some speed, others run stop signs. That is why I support only having laws which restrict actions that cause harm. Simply being an illegal immigrant is not harmful, so I see no reason to ban it, or deport people, just because of that one action.
Freedom is awesome, and I'm going to go ahead and side with freedom... thanks.
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One can hope...
LOL - love you little AlexW. You need more labels for me, though. Remember, I am Trump supporter so you left out homophobe, sexist, misogynistic, etc.
But, just to play into your rhetoric of me....
"if I remember correctly, thinks that there is some sort of planned race replacement of whites going on, white genocide that sort of thing."
This is from Jorge Ramos, the "Walter Cronkite" of Latin journalists:
What I find really ironic about you, little AlexW, is your entire theory of the future of this country is waiting for all the old white people to die - yet you have the audacity to throw your juvenile claims of racism around. You are beyond pathetic."This is not a white country, this is not their country, it is ours, and that is precisely what I'm saying... Look in 2044, the white population will become a minority, it will be a minority-majority country, that is precisely what I'm saying. Latinos, Asians, African-Americans, whites, it is our country Tucker."
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
This thread is about the publication of denied ICE detaining requests by LEOs for CRIMINALS.
Are you okay with known criminals, those who broke local and state laws not just being illegally here, not being deported? They're clearly NOT contributing to our society, right?
How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
As I said a white supremacist. But thanks for confirming it for me.
As for my own belief on what the future holds it certainly does depend on old white republicans dying off and being replaced by (currently) young white democrats. But I'm at a loss at how that makes me a racist. Please do explain.
This is a strange argument you're making. People have been killed, raped, and otherwise harmed as a direct result of sanctuary cities. In the absence of these sanctuary cities, these crimes would not have occured. That's all there is to it.
Unless they were to sneak back in yet again I suppose, but that's where stricter immigration policy and the wall comes into play.
How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
And the action I pointed to, was crossing an invisible line in the dirt in Arizona. I accept your apology.
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So what? People have been killed, raped, and otherwise harmed as a direct result of the legalization of alcohol and firearms. I don't give a damn where someone is from, or how they got here. If they harm someone, punish them.
How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
No, you assumed he said all brown-people cause no harm. What he actually said is the mere act of being here illegally isn't a harmful act. Which is irrefutably true. The act of just being here illegally harms no one. Things the do while they're here sometimes do. And the overwhelming fact that your pathetic anecdotes don't account for is that to overwhelming majority of those people come here, work, and live their life hurting exactly no one just like most Americans and not a single fucks worth of harm is caused by them being here. Going after them in a deportation orgy, a horribly stupid and expensive idea especially from the party of "small efficient government", is not a cost effective way to serve the public good and will cause more harm to citizens than help them. It's a perfect example of cutting off your nose to spite your face "because it's the law,".
Instead you parade about these pathetic minority incidents and extrapolate those actions to the majority. This crusade against illegal immigrants is just as moronic as the drug war. It's propaganda to rile up the right giving a nice non-wasp enemy to blame. Driven as Templar331 said out of a fear of all that is non-wasp.
@supertony51 No machismo largely has it right. If illegal immigrants are wrecking Arizona's system that's because your welfare system is shit. And I suspect that belief is based more on the typical right wing bull sprinkled with an anecdote or two rather than actual evidence. Most of the data I've read demonstrates them to be a net positive frequently using less services than natives. Kinda like when you guys insisted and ranted and rave about how we need to test welfare recipients for drugs. 87,000 had gone through the welfare system in a year and if you include all the people who declined to take the retest it caught a total of 26 people I think. Didn't exactly save you guys the millions Republicans swore it would and just made further the bad stigma anyone who has to go on welfare has. Good job conservatives on to the illegals!
Here's one of a few papers I've read demonstrating a net positive contribution by illegals. Wish I had my desktop so I could find my citations, one was quite good about examining the tax contribution vs welfare usage of illegals, from a few of my labor econ courses but this will have to do. I used to be on the hurrrr illegals bad side but actually studying the impact flipped the perspective.
http://www.nber.org/papers/w19932.pdf
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