Imam calling for Jews to be killed in sermon at Montreal mosque

[sarahtasher]

But guys, when there is the weekly thread about ''poor guy persecuted for losing his ''job'' over screaming antisemit slurs'', you say it's freedom of speech...

[Spectral]

You mean that it's okay to scream ''KILL DUH DJEWS'' when you have a certificate of racial purity signed by your great wizard ?

No kidding.

The world has a few hundred million Muslims that are anti-Semitic and a few thousand actual Nazis, yet I can pretty easily guess which one you spend more time having fevered dreams about.

[Socialhealer]

wait this insult works, this guy is literally Hitler, thanks.

[Spectral]

I guess you missed the part where the majority of muslim groups are condemning this imam.

I'd imagine they're pretty pissed at him for doing something as dumb as being recorded for distribution to kafirs.

[Kalis]

But guys, when there is the weekly thread about ''poor guy persecuted for losing his ''job'' over screaming antisemit slurs'', you say it's freedom of speech...

Where are the weekly threads of people defending a call for killing Jews?

[Spectral]

Sure you could make it illegal with hate speech laws.

But the alt right wouldn't like that. So I can't wait for them to leap to this Imam's defence.

I think he's coming right up to the line of what's legally permitted - even in nations with extremely strong speech protections, calling for murder is generally illegal if it's considered to contain any plausibly actionable threat. That last part is the catch here - I don't think anyone really thinks this guy or his congregation are about to head out and kill some Jews. They're a bunch of repulsive shitbags, but they should have the right to be repulsive shitbags as long as they're not actually doing anything.

[sarahtasher]

I'd imagine they're pretty pissed at him for doing something as dumb as being recorded for distribution to kafirs.

As opposed as doing it online and putting it on YouTube.

[Holas]

Its a post on Canada and still no tennis. Am I missing something?

[Queen of Hamsters]

Color me shocked that there's talk like this going on in a Mosque...
No, it should not be allowed. Same as if a Catholic priest stands in his church calling for the culling of a certain group of people. Religious venues shouldn't be safe havens for spreading hatred, regardless of the religion.

[Arewn]

This type of thing brings up an interesting conflict of interests.
You want to respect and protect the Jewish faith and its people. (of course)
You want to respect and protect the Muslim faith and its people. (again, of course).
But Muslim communities tend to carry a lot of anti-Semitic sentiment. Sometimes (such as in this case) to great extremes.

[Zecora]

Imam is giving a talk at a Mosque in Montreal and calls for the killing of Jews. Should this behavior be illegal?

Of course it should be, and in most civilized countries, it is.

[Spectral]

"To use the themes of the Prophet to spread hatred is actually something that is disrespectful towards the Prophet himself," Asali said.

Which, of course, is the important thing. When an imam preaches anti-Semitism, the real victim is the Prophet.

[Allybeboba]

That sounds like a minefield of political blunders for Coderre. The Imam is inciting violence but not actually threatening anyone, so I think it would be best to stay as far away from this one as possible. Let the US deal with it.

Why let the "US deal with it"? It happened in Canada.

[Endus]

I know, it's not "blatant sexism", right? IMO this imam should get the same amount of attention as Colin Moriarty, don't you think.

He's getting way more. Did you miss that he's under police investigation for this? Moriarty didn't face any legal repercussions whatsoever. Pretty much the entire Muslim community has also disavowed this guy's comments. He's getting way less public support than Moriarty did.

If he was getting "the same amount of attention as Colin Moriarty", he'd be getting way less attention.

[Halyon]

"Islam is a religion of peace!" Yes, the permanent, eternal kind it seems. Not so much peaceful towards your fellow man kind.

That said, maybe it's xenophobia speaking, but given the track record of extremists, I'd not let this sort of talk go unnoticed. Wouldn't punish it, but I'd definately not ignore it at all.

[dd614]

It's actually illegal to criticize this imam in Canada now, isn't it?

[shrunken]

But it seems odd that something like this happen?

Does it, really? You know, you can acknowledge that not all muslims are extremists and still not be very surprised by this story.

[Contego]

"Words" in this case should be illegal, because there are radical people that follow through with it. It's basically on the level of hiring a hitman to kill someone.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Does it, really? You know, you can acknowledge that not all muslims are extremists and still not be very surprised by this story.

It seems odd that it happen in Quebec, is my point.

[Liftbrul]

The only concession I am willing to make in regards to free speech is calls to violence against any group, in any way. I entirely support the right of garbage people to spout their hateful filth as long as it adheres to that one rule. Morons like this imam are their own worst enemy.