China is banning beards and veils in muslim region of Xinjiang

[Deleted]

Finally another country willing to fight the evil that is Islam. Why these people think that moving to another country and practice their culture, completely ignoring or flat out insulting the culture of said country is ok, is beyond me.
If you move to any country, then that culture is how you live, period!

That should be the norm indeed.

[Garnier Fructis]

I am, and in the sense that you seem to be trying to use 'always', what I've referred to does contradict it. Like the Uighur, the Chinese have a long history in the region, and the two groups have had ongoing interaction since early times. Saying the Uighur have always been there, while ignoring the role of the Chinese, is a way to stack the deck.

The sense that I'm trying to use 'always' was actually just to say that the people living there now didn't move into China at any recent time, at which point the whole 'not let them in' thing is moot. I wasn't looking back for more than a century or so, because I didn't figure that semi-ancient history wasn't quite relevant when the subject under discussion was the people living there now.

I mean, in the context of the guy I responded to, how exactly are the interactions between the Uyghurs and the Qing, or the Yuan, or the Han, relevant?

[shadowmouse]

The sense that I'm trying to use 'always' was actually just to say that the people living there now didn't move into China at any recent time, at which point the whole 'not let them in' thing is moot.

Fair enough. I read his comment ("who don't want to open the door to this sort of religion") as referring to limiting a religion rather than actual immigration. I read your comment: "Take over a region and then a few decades later kick out the people who already lived there?" as ignoring the history of the region and suggesting that the Chinese had a presence only dating back a few decades.

[Garnier Fructis]

Fair enough. I read his comment ("who don't want to open the door to this sort of religion") as referring to limiting a religion rather than actual immigration. I read your comment: "Take over a region and then a few decades later kick out the people who already lived there?" as ignoring the history of the region and suggesting that the Chinese had a presence only dating back a few decades.

Oh, yeah that wasn't my intention. Chinese history in that region dates back at least 2000 years.

[shadowmouse]

Chinese history in that region dates back at least 2000 years.

Cheers then! Seems we're at least somewhat in agreement after all.