Sweden terror as truck RAMS into crowds in central Stockholm - many casualties

[Deleted]

You can't be an anarchist and right-wing extremist. They're antithetical to eachother.

But you said you trusted the authorities definition. This is what he is defined as. So it's time to make up your mind.

Also, the definitions are not mutually exclusive and saying you're an anarchist does not mean you subscribe to all of it's ideals. If you read their manifesto you'd see they were not true anarchists, but were into civil disobedience and such.

[Deleted]

But you said you trusted the authorities definition. This is what he is defined as. So it's time to make up your mind.

Mats Michael Hinze (born 22 September 1970), also known as the The Olympic bomber (Swedish: OS-bombaren), is a Swedish right-wing anarchist who became famous when he was caught carrying a backpack containing explosives by Millesgården in 1997.

Mats Michael Hinze, född 22 september 1970 i Täby, Stockholms län,[1] OS-bombaren, är en svensk högeranarkist som först var aktiv inom politiken men blev känd när han ertappades på Millesgården med en ryggsäck innehållande en bomb 1997.

[Mayhem]

I told you how they got the numbers. What is it you are trying to ask?

I would ask you to speak plainly at this point.

You have not explained anything, you simply stated they include numbers from ukraine. Considering we are talking about terror attacks, you have to explain how the numbers about attacks from within france could include numbers from ukraine.

[Deleted]

Yes, and I'm considered christian because I go to church for högtider because it's tradition while I have christian friends who are not considered religious because they don't go to the church. I wouldn't put much trust in whether someone thinks someone is religious or not.

So you can't call this Islamist terror? Since you don't know.

[primalmatter]

You have not explained anything, you simply stated they include numbers from ukraine. Considering we are talking about terror attacks, you have to explain how the numbers about attacks from within france could include numbers from ukraine.

I would not know why they would choose to include. I can guess it is in order to muddy the waters but that is purely speculation on my part,

[ButterBeast]

Wonder how our politicians will spin this.

probaly in the way of lets not demonize the muslims citizens that have nothing to do with this. Outrageous i know.

[Deleted]

Mats Michael Hinze (born 22 September 1970), also known as the The Olympic bomber (Swedish: OS-bombaren), is a Swedish right-wingwho became famous when he was caught carrying a backpack containing explosives by Millesgården in 1997.

Mats Michael Hinze, född 22 september 1970 i Täby, Stockholms län,[1] OS-bombaren, är en svensk högeranarkist som först var aktiv inom politiken men blev känd när han ertappades på Millesgården med en ryggsäck innehållande en bomb 1997.

Fixed that for you.

Anyway, since you can't deny link #2 you are factually wrong. Unless you want to dispute NMR being right wing extremists.

[Deleted]

So you can't call this Islamist terror? Since you don't know.

I'll change my mind if the authorities do.

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Fixed that for you

You didn't fix anything.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mats_Hinze
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mats_Hinze

I'm quoting directly from this.

I can quote from Aftonbladet too:

Under 90-talet var Mats Hinze en ledande person i den ultraliberala organisationen Frihetsfronten. Han blev känd för sin liberala syn på droger och retade gallfeber på myndigheterna genom att ständigt bryta mot lagar och förordningar. Av princip.
Innan han blev rikskänd som OS-bombaren hade han figurerat i en rad polisutredningar rörande olaga hot, rattfylla, olovlig körning, våldsamt motstånd, skadegörelse och olaga affischering.

Leading figure in an ultraliberal organisation who is a drug liberal. Yeah, sounds like a case of right-wing extremism.

[Mayhem]

I would not know why they would choose to include. I can guess it is in order to muddy the waters but that is purely speculation on my part,

Ok what page are you even talking about at this point?

[Kalis]

What on Earth has terrorism from 20 years ago, got to do with this thread?

[Mayhem]

What on Earth has terrorism from 20 years ago, got to do with this thread?

I guess when someone states there was no terrorism in sweden for 100 years.

[Deleted]

I guess when someone states there was no torrorism in sweden for 100 years.

The last terror attack previous to this was in 1908 from a socialist. So yes, there has been no terror attacks in Sweden for 100 years prior to this. We had an attempted terror attack by an islamist who blew only himself up some years back though.

[Xarkan]

What on Earth has terrorism from 20 years ago, got to do with this thread?

Well somehow someone thought they'd make the claim the only terrorism in Sweden in the last 100 years was Islamic.

[Deleted]

I'll change my mind if the authorities do.

Jesus.. I'm done with you. Can't answer straight to a single question. Just constant deflections. You just trust whatever source fits your agenda at this point.

Fact still remains, Nazi's commited terror just a few months ago. And legally it is farm from certain that this will end up with a conviction for terror, for the same reason Trollhättan was not, because the perpetrator is not part of a movement, which was the reason Trollhättan was not deemed terror.

You didn't fix anything.

Yes, I bolded RIGHT-WING for you. I guessed you'd take the hint, but apparently right-wing is not right-wing because something something.

[Xarkan]

The last terror attack previous to this was in 1908 from a socialist. So yes, there has been no terror attacks in Sweden for 100 years prior to this. We had an attempted terror attack by an islamist who blew only himself up some years back though.

1975 Stockholm, West German Embassy

Rote Armee Fraktion, the great islamic terrorists.

Edit: I guess you could argue that was West German soil

[Deleted]

Well somehow someone thought they'd make the claim the only terrorism in Sweden in the last 100 years was Islamic.

I guess I was wrong. I just looked it up. There was an attack in 1975 from left-wing extremist Red Army Faction. Not seen any terror attacks by right-wing extremists in my search, as people claim there have been.

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Yes, I bolded RIGHT-WING for you. I guessed you'd take the hint, but apparently right-wing is not right-wing because something something.

Right-wing can mean anything from conservative(Including social conservatives) to nationalists to liberals to libertarians. The centre party(liberals) is right-wing, the moderate(conservative liberals) party is right-wing, the liberals(liberals) are right-wing, the christian democrats(social conservatives) are right-wing, the sweden democrats(social conservatives, nationalists) are right-wing but none of them are the same.

They're all incapable of being right-wing extremists due to their ideologies clashing with core concepts of right-wing extremism(the sweden democrats less so than the others party though). Just like anarchism.

[Kalis]

I guess when someone states there was no torrorism in sweden for 100 years.

How is it relevant in any way?

Europe nowadays has little trouble from any terrorism other than Islamic terrorism, even the likes of the IRA are piss weak and typically carry out low key arson attacks.

[Deleted]

I guess I was wrong. I just looked it up. There was an attack in 1975 from left-wing extremist Red Army Faction. Not seen any terror attacks by right-wing extremists in my search, as people claim there have been.

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Right-wing can mean anything from conservative(Including social conservatives) to nationalists to liberals to libertarians. The centre party(liberals) is right-wing, the moderate(conservative liberals= party is right-wing, the liberals(liberals) are right-wing, the christian democrats(social conservatives), the sweden democrats(social conservatives, nationalists) are right-wing but none of them are the same.

They're all incapable of being right-wing extremists due to their ideologies clashing with core concepts of right-wing extremism. Just like anarchism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

Both the 2009–10 Malmö shootings and the Trollhättan school attack were conducted by right-wing terrorists along with a refugee centre bombing in 2017.

[Xarkan]

I guess I was wrong. I just looked it up. There was an attack in 1975 from left-wing extremist Red Army Faction. Not seen any terror attacks by right-wing extremists in my search, as people claim there have been.

To be fair islamic terrorism is right wing, conservative religious terrorism. It is not what people usually mean with right wing terrorism but *shrugs*

[Deleted]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

Not labelled as such by the authorities, so no.