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    Gay Men rounded into concentration camp in Chechnya

    Looks like a part of history repeating itself.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mosexuals.html
    Chechnya opens world's first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler's in the 1930s where campaigners say gay men are being tortured with electric shocks and beaten to death

    -Chechyna has opened the first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler
    -Prisoners reportedly tortured with electric shocks and some beaten to death
    -One of those who fled said prisoners were beaten to force them to reveal other members of the gay community
    -Comes after 100 gay men were detained and three killed in Chechyna last week

    Chechyna has opened the first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler, where campaigners say gay men are being tortured with electric shocks and beaten to death.
    It comes after it was claimed 100 gay men had been detained and three killed in Chechnya last week.
    A report by Novoya Gazeta said authorities had set up several camps where homosexuals are killed or forced to promise to leave the republic.
    One of the camps is reportedly at the former military headquarters in the town of Argun.

    Svetlana Zakharova, from the Russian LGBT Network, told MailOnline: 'Gay people have been detained and rounded up and we are working to evacuate people from the camps and some have now left the region.
    'Those who have escaped said they are detained in the same room and people are kept altogether, around 30 or 40. They are tortured with electric currents and heavily beaten, sometimes to death.'

    One of those who escaped told Novoya Gazeta that prisoners were beaten to force them to reveal other members of the gay community.
    Another prisoner who fled said that before being incarcerated in one of the camps, he had been forced to pay bribes to Chechen police of thousands of rubles every month in order to survive.
    Now the regime had taken another step against gays by creating these camps, the survivor said.
    Alexander Artemyev, from Amnesty International in Russia, told MailOnline: 'We can only call on the Russian authorities to investigate the allegations. Homosexuals in Chechyna are treated very harshly and prosecuted daily and they are afraid to talk about it.
    'They either have to hide or leave the republic. We are keeping in touch with the LGBT network that helps people in Russia to find shelter. The problem is people there cannot talk about it as it puts their lives and those they speak to, in danger. This is the main issue we are facing in Russia and the main challenge.'
    Ekaterina Sokirianskaia, Russia project director for the International Crisis Group, told MailOnline: 'The story is very much developing...victims are escaping.'

    Tanya Lokshina, from Human Rights Watch in Moscow, said: 'For several weeks now, a brutal campaign against LGBT people has been sweeping through Chechnya.
    'These days, very few people in Chechnya dare speak to human rights monitors or journalists even anonymously because the climate of fear is overwhelming and people have been largely intimidated into silence.
    'Filing an official complaint against local security officials is extremely dangerous, as retaliation by local authorities is practically inevitable.
    'It is difficult to overstate just how vulnerable LGBT people are in Chechnya, where homophobia is intense and rampant. LGBT people are in danger not only of persecution by the authorities but also of falling victim to "honour killings" by their own relatives for tarnishing family honour.'
    Last week Novoya Gazeta said Chechen police had rounded up more than 100 men suspected of being gay and killed three.
    It claimed that among those detained were well-known local television personalities and religious figures.
    President Razman Kadyrov, who is a key ally of Vladimir Putin, allegedly ordered the clampdown, although officially his regime denied the arrests claiming 'it is impossible to persecute those who are not in the republic'.

    Kadyrov, who introduced Islamic rule in the Muslim-majority region, has been accused of earlier human rights violations.
    He described the allegations as 'absolute lies and disinformation'.
    Kadyrov's spokesman Alvi Karimov told the Interfax News Agency: 'You cannot arrest or repress people who just don't exist in the republic.
    'If such people existed in Chechnya, law enforcement would not have to worry about them, as their own relatives would have sent them to where they could never return.'
    Chechen society is strictly conservative, meaning that unlike other cases where relatives or rights activists may put pressure on authorities when a homosexual relative disappears, those suspected are likely to be disowned by their own families.
    According to the New York Times, gay men on the region have been deleting their social media profiles after it was reported authorities tried to lure gay men into dates and arrested them.
    The reports from Russia claim those arrested range from just 15 to 50.
    http://upnorth.eu/kadyrov-opens-firs...hitlers-times/

    Chechen head Ramzan Kadyrov has not only sponsored direct attacks on members of the LGBT community in his republic but has adopted a plan for “the final solution of gay issue” and opened the first concentration camp in the world for sexual minorities since Hitler did so in the 1930s, according to a Novaya gazeta investigation.

    The goal of this effort, the paper’s Elena Milashina and Irinia Gordiyenko say, is “the complete cleansing of Chechnya from men of non-traditional sexual orientation.” The authorites have set up several internment camps where inmates are killed or forced to promise to leave the republic.



    One of those who fled told Milashina and Gordiyenko that before being incarcerated in one of these camps, he had been forced to pay bribes to Chechen police of thousands of rubles every month in order to survive. Now, the regime has taken another step against gays by creating these camps, this survivor says.

    Another former inmate said that he and others incarcerated in “the secret jail” were beaten to force them to name other members of the gay community. The address of at least one of these concentration camps is know: it is in the former military headquarters in Argun at 996 Kadyrov Street, symbolic in its way.

    Novaya gazeta and a few other Russian outlets last week reported about repressions against gays in Chechnya, but the Kadyrov regime denied all accusations. It even claimed that “if there were homosexuals in Chechnya,” the authorities wouldn’t need to deal with them because their relatives would.
    Question then. If the leader of chechnya claims their are no gay people in his country, why then would he require a 'final solution' for them?

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Just a pity america is right now lead by the living potato.
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    That's freaking awful!!

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    I mean the middle east is fucking awful if your gay, from stonings to public execution, but the fact chechnya claims to be a civilized nation and yet this is happening in 2017 speaks volumes for the actual mindset of its dictatorship.
    #boycottchina

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    i hope they can flee and find a safer country.

    if something like this starts becoming more widespread in that area, something's going to have to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Looks like a part of history repeating itself.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mosexuals.html


    http://upnorth.eu/kadyrov-opens-firs...hitlers-times/



    Question then. If the leader of chechnya claims their are no gay people in his country, why then would he require a 'final solution' for them?

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Just a pity america is right now lead by the living potato.
    I'll bet on the fact that the leader is gay but tries to deny it.

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    Sounds like a job for russia to handle, real shame though in this day and age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    I mean the middle east is fucking awful if your gay, from stonings to public execution, but the fact chechnya claims to be a civilized nation and yet this is happening in 2017 speaks volumes for the actual mindset of its dictatorship.
    Well, Chechnya is majority Muslims... I'm not saying it but, yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    Well, Chechnya is majority Muslims... I'm not saying it but, yeah...
    yeah.. speaks for itself..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    Well, Chechnya is majority Muslims... I'm not saying it but, yeah...
    inb4 endus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Just a pity america is right now lead by the living potato.
    I know it is easy to take pot shots at Trump because he is unliked, but lets face it. Our previous Presidents have a pretty shitty record when it comes to fighting for the human rights of people in other countries. Gays of Muslim faith are beheaded daily and they are lucky to make the headlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    Sounds like a job for russia to handle, real shame though in this day and age.
    Russia won't, because just like the chechnyan leader, putin wants the world to believe their are no gay people in his country, so to acknowledge this would mean breaking his own words. So unless international intervention takes it up, well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tss View Post
    inb4 endus
    Lol, well said. We're not allowed to criticize, you see. It's so bigoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Russia won't, because just like the chechnyan leader, putin wants the world to believe their are no gay people in his country, so to acknowledge this would mean breaking his own words. So unless international intervention takes it up, well..
    Ah ok yeah i have no clue on putin/russias stance on gays i just know rússia and chechnya have terrible relations to say the least and this could give russia a excuse to go ham on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tss View Post
    inb4 endus
    Endus is gay himself (least I believe he is), and I've noticed a clear lack of attention to this story in the media, so it needs more focus.
    #boycottchina

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    Wanna know what's worse than Russia??? Ramzan Kadyrov's MUSLIM RUSSIA OF COURSE(i'm Russian i assure you the stuff that guy does isnt for the faint of heart).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    I mean the middle east is fucking awful if your gay, from stonings to public execution, but the fact chechnya claims to be a civilized nation and yet this is happening in 2017 speaks volumes for the actual mindset of its dictatorship.
    Do you happen to know what the predominant religion in Chechnya is?
    Most people would rather die than think, and most people do. -Bertrand Russell
    Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn’t be noticed - nationality did not really exist, only humanity. But in the camps one learns: if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity - too bad for you -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by petej0 View Post
    I know it is easy to take pot shots at Trump because he is unliked, but lets face it. Our previous Presidents have a pretty shitty record when it comes to fighting for the human rights of people in other countries. Gays of Muslim faith are beheaded daily and they are lucky to make the headlines.
    guess what... if Trump's response to the Syrian gas attack was "America's done worse"... he'd be taking just as much flak as his defense of Russia's state-sanctioned murders.

    It has little to do with fighting "for" the human rights of other countries.... and Trump's speaking up in DEFENSE of those countries when they slaughter innocence to the detriment of the US.

    I mean, like it or not... Russia's a superpower... there's only so much meddling another country can do in its internal affairs if the persecuted citizens are unwilling or unable to defend themselves.

    If the US truly wants to make a difference, they could provide a safe haven for exodus of those persecuted... instead of shutting off its borders and claiming they're "bad hombres" who deserve what they get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Endus is gay himself (least I believe he is), and I've noticed a clear lack of attention to this story in the media, so it needs more focus.
    Does it need a signal boost because of the camps or because the country, no matter who's in charge, pays lip service to human rights while being open allies with places like Saudi Arabia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Endus is gay himself (least I believe he is), and I've noticed a clear lack of attention to this story in the media, so it needs more focus.
    if you've ever seen the left, there's a lot of short-sighted, naive gays.

    not me, i realize why some people hate me, and i don't care who it offends to point it out.

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    Absolutely disgraceful. It really shakes me to my core, as a gay man myself, the way gay people are still terrorized and persecuted. I haven't heard anything about it on the news or seen any politicians even acknowledging that this is happening. Everything even remotely about Russia always gets unchallenged and quietly swept under the rug. It's an affront to human rights and dignity, it's fascist, it's disgusting and its principles are no different than those that motivated other events of mass incarceration of vulnerable minorities.

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