did ISIS thought they are going to win?

[Deleted]

did ISIS thought they are going to win?
it wasn t hard to predict they would get bombed "the sh$%@t out of them" by the next us president regardless who won

[Super Kami Dende]

Sadly enough, the fact that they got the shit bombed out of them but many Western Civilians are actually upset about it happening means they aren't really losing either.

It's a sad day when it's seen as politically incorrect to want to wipe out a disease.

[Skulltaker]

Sadly enough, the fact that they got the shit bombed out of them but many Western Civilians are actually upset about it happening means they aren't really losing either.

It's a sad day when it's seen as politically incorrect to want to wipe out a disease.

While I agree that ISIS needs to be dealt with: It is even sadder that there are still people who realize that the families of todays isis, their children, especially, will form the next isis a couple of years from now. Last generation was Al Quaida. Bombing them is only a short term solution, and in the end, nobody wins.

[HumbleDuck]

Sadly enough, the fact that they got the shit bombed out of them but many Western Civilians are actually upset about it happening means they aren't really losing either.

It's a sad day when it's seen as politically incorrect to want to wipe out a disease.

Yes, because you wipe out a disease by killing off the patient. Very effective method and no way it would backfire.

[Niroshi]

Depends on what they see as winning. If their idea of victory is the destruction of the United States then that's laughably unlikely. If it's something like "bog the US down in the Middle East and bleed it dry" well maybe.

[Deleted]

i don t know if you get bombed and die seams like losing and must suck to have no healthcare and live the way they do

[StayTuned]

Sadly enough, the fact that they got the shit bombed out of them but many Western Civilians are actually upset about it happening means they aren't really losing either.

It's a sad day when it's seen as politically incorrect to want to wipe out a disease.

Because when you wipe out a power house and you don't replace it properly, and guide it with Intel and a helpful hand, you leave a power vacuum. ISIS is the result of shitty bombings of prior "diseases".

Imagine the west bombed the Third Reich and didn't have a marshall plan. Just in and out and leave Europe to itself.

We'd be dirt poor and eating our own children

[Kontinuum]

They are an apocalyptic cult.

[Independent voter]

ISIS sees everything as a "message from God". They, usually their imams, interpret events and tell everyone how ISIS is doing in the eyes of God.

Dabiq is the town were the Koran says the final battle before the Apocalypse is supposed to happen. When ISIS took over Dabiq it was a sign from God that they were on the right track, now that they've lost Dabiq it's telling them that ISIS is no longer on the right track and must return to the right track.

Every time one of these lone wolfs drives a truck into a crowd, that's a sign from God ISIS is on the right track.

If this bomb did major harm or ISIS loses Mosul then that's a sign from God they're on the wrong track. Every time a drone kills a leader it's a sign from God that leader was on the wrong track.

The religious don't think like you and I.

[Niroshi]

i don t know if you get bombed and die seams like losing and must suck to have no healthcare and live the way they do

By our standards yeah that's losing, and badly. The thing is you have to think about it from their perspective, what if the events that transpired in the Middle East happened in the US? We wouldn't bow down to a hostile foreign power after they've killed our friends and families going back generations.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

i don t know if you get bombed and die seams like losing and must suck to have no healthcare and live the way they do

if you kill 1 million with bombs but those bombs then radicalize 2 million more...have you really won?

[Elim Garak]

They are not French.

[Mormolyce]

did ISIS thought they are going to win?
it wasn t hard to predict they would get bombed "the sh$%@t out of them" by the next us president regardless who won

What do you mean? It was basically all over before the current President took over.

[Deleted]

We've been bombing terrorists for almost two decades, they aren't exactly losing.

[Macaquerie]

ISIS will be gone soon, but they've done far more damage to the world than they could have ever dreamed of. The damage they've done in Syria and Iraq can be healed with time, but as a side effect they've managed to convert a significant proportion of Westerners into right wing lunatics, convinced that if we don't immediately strip all undesirables of all basic human rights, our societies will be overrun by a brown tide of terror, something which there is scant little evidence of despite the hysteria. The actual terrorists will be dealt with soon enough, but ridding our communities of this new poison will be difficult.

[Atherions]

Every time you bomb 1 extremist 2 more pop up. "Bombing the shit out of them" isn't going to do anything.

[Deleted]

ISIS will be gone soon, but they've done far more damage to the world than they could have ever dreamed of. The damage they've done in Syria and Iraq can be healed with time, but as a side effect they've managed to convert a significant proportion of Westerners into right wing lunatics, convinced that if we don't immediately strip all undesirables of all basic human rights, our societies will be overrun by a brown tide of terror, something which there is scant little evidence of despite the hysteria. The actual terrorists will be dealt with soon enough, but ridding our communities of this new poison will be difficult.

This a thousand time. Of course they can't win a war, they barely have an army, weapons, anything, compared to the rest. Yet they did change the idea and perspective of millions of people in the 'civilized' West. That's something you can't just fix with fancy smart bombs.

[Elim Garak]

Roman Empire were beating the barbarians right and left...

[Deleted]

Roman Empire were beating the barbarians right and left...

... until they got fed up with wars and started recruiting barbarians to fight their own civil wars. We all know how it ended (the start of medieval military dynasties).

[Draco-Onis]

did ISIS thought they are going to win?
it wasn t hard to predict they would get bombed "the sh$%@t out of them" by the next us president regardless who won

You don't kill an idea with just bombs and weapons, we've been bombing the middle east for decades and things have only gotten worse. As long as people think giant bombs are what is going to solve this things will never change.