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    China approved three Ivanka trademarks on same day she met with Xi

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...y-she-met-with

    Three new Ivanka Trump brand trademarks were approved in China on the same day Ivanka Trump and husband Jared Kushner sat next to Chinese President Xi Jinping and wife Peng Liyuan earlier this month at a Mar-a-Lago state dinner, The Associated Press reported early Tuesday.

    Xi visited Mar-a-Lago, President Trump's luxury resort in Palm Beach, Fla., on April 6. Trump and Kushner attended the state dinner that evening, sitting next to the world leader. The AP found that three trademarks that confer monopoly rights to sell Ivanka brand jewelry, bags and spa services were approved in China on the same day as the dinner.

    Ivanka Trump Marks LLC., founded in 2007, has reported record sales since her father's inauguration despite some retailers, including Nordstrom, TJ Maxx and Marshalls, pulling the line.

    In February, the president of the brand said it was seeing some of its best sales in its history. From January to February, the e-commerce aggregator Lyst reported a 346-percent sales increase of Ivanka Trump sales.

    Ivanka Trump has stepped away from her business, placing it in a family trust before she moved into her new White House role as an adviser to her father.

    However, critics have still raised concerns that Ivanka and President Trump could use their White House positions as a platform for the Ivanka Trump brand and Trump Organization, or violate conflict of interest rules in other ways as federal employees. Similarly, many have questioned how close the two remain to their brands, despite placing them in trusts.

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    Palm greasing, nice....

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    I know it sounds greasy to us but it's just the way business works in China. She's hardly the first or last. I don't have a problem if that's the existing culture of that country (which it is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    It's pretty amazing how all the shit people screamed and cried Hillary was going to do which made them vote for Trump has pretty quickly become the normal state of affairs under the Trump dynasty. It's like trying to dodge a bullet by diving into its path.
    Dynasty you say. One can only hope. Besides we're talking about CHINESE patents. You know those slips of paper they turn to when out of TP.
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    Were they approved in China the US on April 6? If China, the Trumps were probably sleeping when they got approved. It could have been just a coincidence that it happen on the same date. That was poor planning on her company's part. If in fact that is the case.
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    The critics do not think the millions Bill Clinton made from his speeches had anything to with him being President? Or the millions Obama will make for the same thing and books? I mean surely the fact Bill and Hillary Clinton made millions for the Clinton foundation and their fortune now, had nothing to do with them taking advantage of using their political careers. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    The critics do not think the millions Bill Clinton made from his speeches had anything to with him being President? Or the millions Obama will make for the same thing and books? I mean surely the fact Bill and Hillary Clinton made millions for the Clinton foundation and their fortune now, had nothing to do with them taking advantage of using their political careers. :P
    Not everyone is the internally inconsistent apologist you are. Don't project your own shortcomings onto the rest of us. For instance, I recognize that Clinton absolutely exploited his position in a number of really slimy ways (some of which got him impeached, if you'll recall). Hillary is also guilty of playing the game to benefit herself in ways I wish were illegal. As I've heard it said, the only real separation of people that matters is by wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    The critics do not think the millions Bill Clinton made from his speeches had anything to with him being President? Or the millions Obama will make for the same thing and books? I mean surely the fact Bill and Hillary Clinton made millions for the Clinton foundation and their fortune now, had nothing to do with them taking advantage of using their political careers. :P
    There might be a difference between the money you earn when you can no longer actually change anything and the money you earn when you can.

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    People always said "there are too many lawyers and politicians in Washington DC, that's what's wrong with the country."

    Now they've elected a business man who isn't a lawyer or a politician. Democracy in action.

    I don't care if President Xi gave her the trademarks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviscero View Post
    Not everyone is the internally inconsistent apologist you are. Don't project your own shortcomings onto the rest of us. For instance, I recognize that Clinton absolutely exploited his position in a number of really slimy ways (some of which got him impeached, if you'll recall). Hillary is also guilty of playing the game to benefit herself in ways I wish were illegal. As I've heard it said, the only real separation of people that matters is by wealth.
    It is up to you to reject or accept them. No one is trying to force anything on you. We are here to express opinions. Some, we each will agree with and some we will not. See, answering a post with just the reasons you disagree with is much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    There might be a difference between the money you earn when you can no longer actually change anything and the money you earn when you can.
    That is a good point. But I feel confident this has happened many, many times before in politics.

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    Here in the civilized world we that corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    That is a good point. But I feel confident this has happened many, many times before in politics.
    Why are you so confident?
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    If by same day we mean April 6, then they were approved BEFORE the dinner. Since by dinner time in Florida it is already April 7 in China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexkeren View Post
    If by same day we mean April 6, then they were approved BEFORE the dinner. Since by dinner time in Florida it is already April 7 in China.
    Lol! Do not disappoint them with the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    It's pretty amazing how all the shit people screamed and cried Hillary was going to do which made them vote for Trump has pretty quickly become the normal state of affairs under the Trump dynasty. It's like trying to dodge a bullet by diving into its path.
    They preached this as the norm before Trump won. After Trump's win, he is standardizing to that norm. That's why all the 'I'm sure they do it too' crap. Trump told them that government is corrupt, so now Trump is just being 'normal'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Lol! Do not disappoint them with the details.
    How does that make it any better?

    Either:
    A) Trump suddenly decided to break another one of his election promises and do a 180 on his china stance right after they were "nice" to his daughter.
    B) Trump suddenly decided to break another one of his election promises and did a 180 on his china stance, and then China is suddenly "nice" his daughter.

    Either way has the horrible stench of corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Lol! Do not disappoint them with the details.
    What details? That AP didn't switch time zones when saying dinner? You don't see how ludicrous saying 'it couldn't have been done after dinner, because in China's time zone dinner already happened'? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    How does that make it any better?

    Either:
    A) Trump suddenly decided to break another one of his election promises and do a 180 on his china stance right after they were "nice" to his daughter.
    B) Trump suddenly decided to break another one of his election promises and did a 180 on his china stance, and then China is suddenly "nice" his daughter.

    Either way has the horrible stench of corruption.
    Or... when they said dinner, they were not talking about dinner in two time zones. It's like saying you will play WoW with your friend in China after dinner, for one of your mates to respond that it's too late... his dinner already happened... :|
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    It's the way the world works. You do for me I do for you. It will never change. Doesn't matter democrat or republican. Hillary or Donnie. They all do it. Get out of your safe space cocoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    How does that make it any better?

    Either:
    A) Trump suddenly decided to break another one of his election promises and do a 180 on his china stance right after they were "nice" to his daughter.
    B) Trump suddenly decided to break another one of his election promises and did a 180 on his china stance, and then China is suddenly "nice" his daughter.

    Either way has the horrible stench of corruption.
    I like the smell of pawpaws. My wife hates them.

    Or it could be C) Trump understands that one at times has to adjust and be flexible to end up in the end with a better deal and being nice to his daughter can be a signal they are willing to negotiate better trade deals for the US as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slickwilly View Post
    It's the way the world works. You do for me I do for you. It will never change. Doesn't matter democrat or republican. Hillary or Donnie. They all do it. Get out of your safe space cocoon.
    Uhm... the person saying they all do it and it will not change, is the one in a safe zone. Otherwise, justifying the merits of what is done, will require you to step out of your safe space. Saying 'they are all the same' is a safe space, that excuses you from stepping out of your safe space, to see what is actually going on now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    I like the smell of pawpaws. My wife hates them.

    Or it could be C) Trump understands that one at times has to adjust and be flexible to end up in the end with a better deal and being nice to his daughter can be a signal they are willing to negotiate better trade deals for the US as a whole.
    So you literally have no problem with the president using his current position for personal financial gain. What is the difference between that and a straight up bribe? I'm glad you love the corruption in our government and support the guy who represents it.

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