Princeton scholars who studied rising death rates attacked for focusing on whites.

[Deleted]

No, it isn't. Cut the alarmist crap.

Tell your political friends to cut the racists posts. And get out of your victim-role.

Just take a look on american history. The "white angry man" always was the offender and not the victim of history.

[Revi]

It's most certainly not what you said, just the natural consequence of framing this as a matter of bad behavior to be ended.

Or you could frame it as me not wanting scientists to let their political interests make them dissuade scientific study in their field.

Wanting to control what scientists believe politically would be thought policing. Wanting to discourage them from discouraging science because of their beliefs is not.

People can believe whatever they want, I just think we should start caring if they try to dissuade others from identifying problems because of it.

[Deleted]

Tell your political friends to cut the racists posts. And get out of your victim-role.

Just take a look on american history. The "white angry man" always was the offender and not the victim of history.

My political friends being who?

Victim role? Where?

No, go back to history classes.

[Deleted]

No, go back to history classes.

Yeah.

Let me show you some lessons:

"White angry man against indians"

"White angry man against same rights for woman"

"White angry man against black people"

[Theodarzna]

The slow death of academia. D:

[Deleted]

Yeah.

Let me show you some lessons:

"White angry man against indians"

"White angry man against same rights for woman"

"White angry man against black people"

Just no.

10chars

[Deleted]

Just no.

Oh so it wasnt the "angry white man" as offender in those cases? I love your sheer amount of arguments.

[Deleted]

Oh so it wasnt the "angry white man" as offender in those cases? I love your sheer amount of arguments.

Some people who were white. Not white people as a group.

[Deleted]

Some people who were white. Not white people as a group.

Hahaha. Really?

Oh well. Welcome to MMO-C off topic.

"But me read tad on /pol/ and breitbart so it haz to be rite dood!"

[NED funded]

That's literally what I responded to.

Do you not understand the words I responded to you with?

The research was focused on whites. The white rates were much lower than blacks, on those two charts in particular upwards of 50-70% lower. And the variations in whites within their own scale were lower still.

So taking that first chart, for example... And placing it on the black scale...

It would look like this (green line at the bottom):


Doesn't make it particularly easy to discern anything does it? Especially consider the research was literally focused on that green line.

EDIT: Made a more accurate chart with blacks (yellow) and whites (green) at the same scale. Scale is to the right of the normal scale.

Yeah its a shit graph, that is used to visualize that blacks have shown considerable improvements in heart rates when compared to whites(which gives more emphasis to white lives) The graph is misleading and shouldn't be there.

Explaining the slowdown in progress in heart disease mortality is not straight-
forward. Many commentators have long predicted that obesity would eventually have
this effect, and see little to explain, e.g. Flegal et al (2005), Olshansky et al (2005),
Lloyd-Jones (2016). But the time, sex, and race patterns of obesity do not obviously
match the patterns of heart disease. While obesity rates are rising more rapidly among
blacks than among whites in the US, blacks made rapid progress against heart disease in
the period 1999-2015 (see Table 2 and Appendix Figure 5)

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[Deleted]

Hahaha. Really?

Oh well. Welcome to MMO-C off topic.

Yes, really. Just because someone who is white is a racist doesn't mean white people are racist.

[purebalance]

It obviously didn't stop them from doing the science, so there's really no reason to care that some people had opinions you don't like.

You clearly don't know how the research community works considering that basically if enough of the community criticizes and doesn't back your work, it will pretty much not get published much less you lose credibility in the field. You can do the work, but if you don't get it published it's the same as not doing it.

[Deleted]

Yes, really. Just because someone who is white is a racist doesn't mean white people are racist.

I talked about the "white angry man" who never was in a victim role in america.

Yet the forum breiviks tend to act as if the white man is in danger. By "femnazis", "antifa", the canadian MP, sweden and "liberurls".

I cant even imagine a comic that would be worse. Or a horror movie.

[Deleted]

I talked about the "white angry man" who never was in a victim role in america.

Yet the forum breiviks tend to act as if the white man is in danger. By "femnazis", "antifa", the canadian MP, sweden and "liberurls".

You're just being utterly ridiculous now.

[Super Kami Dende]

It obviously didn't stop them from doing the science, so there's really no reason to care that some people had opinions you don't like.

Isn't that the number 1 issue in America (and to lesser extent the World) today though? People seem to care about everyone else's Opinions to the point where if it isn't theirs they want it silenced?

[Super Kami Dende]

Wtf we love scientists/researchers now - Climate deniers

What does that even have to do with this though :/

[THE Bigzoman]

"white race" self victimization thread #143.

I thought racism is not allowed in these forums.

Your definition of racism is almost as retarded as you're being.


[Infracted]

[Dug]

What does that even have to do with this though :/

You'll see

[THE Bigzoman]

Which has what to do with a couple of people not liking some research? This isn't even about faulty research. It's about research topics. Did you even read the article?

Holy shit you're being obtuse.

Scientists in their same field isn't just a "couple of people disliking some research" You're trying reallllly hard to trivialize this.

it has to do with the topic because science makes the corrections Revi described because people care about bullshit likes this when rears its head.

[I Push Buttons]

It's literally just a couple of people allegedly disliking certain topics of research that is in no way preventing research on those topics.

Now it didn't even happen in your narrative.

By golly.