IS this the MMO to be played right now?

[DStrukt]

In title.. Is my question

What I liked in WoW. Social aspect.. chilling in goldshire, talking nonsense/duels.. helping others
Dungeons, both sides.. having to form groups for difficult dungeons and make the effort to travel manually but also enjoyed the casual experience and ease of normal dungeons with dungeon finder too - Ofcourse I enjoyed the actual dungeon systems too, I need trinity system. The one reason that puts me off Guild Wars 2 unfortunately.
I dont really care about raiding a great deal.
Enjoyable quests.


Please convince me to play FF or convince me not too ??? I want pros and cons on why you think FF is the MMO to be played right now, or why it isnt the MMO to be played (If not, what is?)

[TriHard]

In title.. Is my question

What I liked in WoW. chilling in goldshire

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[Osmeric]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better...w_of_headlines

[DStrukt]

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hahaha just a very small minor percentage of my time that was

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better...w_of_headlines

So the answer is no. Then what are your reasons? I asked for reasons.

[Katchii]

Not to be a dick, but no one can answer the question on whether you will like it or enjoy it but you.

I personally enjoy it immensely.

There is an unlimited free trial that will let you play for as long as you want with some restrictions obviously, such as level cap and communication restrictions (LINK)

And here's the link to the sign up page.

It starts out slow...much slower than WoW as it is a VERY story driven game. Combat is also slow in the beginning for the majority of classes as you have very few abilities and the GCD is 2.5 seconds. If you want to alleviate that a little, try playing as a Pugilist. Combat picks up as levels go on with level 30 being a big kind of break point and it changing pretty profoundly at 50 and then again on your way from 50-60 with the addition of class defining and combat flow altering abilities.

Regardless, if you liked WoW, enjoy story and like the art style of FFXIV I think you'll find yourself at home here.

[Osmeric]

So the answer is no. Then what are your reasons? I asked for reasons.

The answer is no because there is no universal "MMO to be played right now". The category being asked about does not exist.

To put it another way: if there really were a universally superior MMO, better for all persons, it would be so blindingly obvious you would not have asked the question.

[Kyriani]

In title.. Is my question

What I liked in WoW. Social aspect.. chilling in goldshire, talking nonsense/duels.. helping others
Dungeons, both sides.. having to form groups for difficult dungeons and make the effort to travel manually but also enjoyed the casual experience and ease of normal dungeons with dungeon finder too - Ofcourse I enjoyed the actual dungeon systems too, I need trinity system. The one reason that puts me off Guild Wars 2 unfortunately.
I dont really care about raiding a great deal.
Enjoyable quests.


Please convince me to play FF or convince me not too ??? I want pros and cons on why you think FF is the MMO to be played right now, or why it isnt the MMO to be played (If not, what is?)

It is for me.

I can't say if it is for you or isn't.

Like any online game, if you're looking for social interaction you have to actually make an effort to interact. People tend to at least greet each other at the beginning of dungeons in FFXIV, beyond that people have to actually take the initiative and speak up. If you do so however, people in the random dungeon parties tend to speak back so there's some social interaction going on there. Join an active Free Company (FF's version of guilds) and you can have a great deal of social interaction. There are also places where max levels congregate making it easy (depending on server population) to socialize in that regard.

The 4 man dungeons are fairly easy once you know the mechanics (of the ones with unique mechanics), the 8 man and 24 mans require a bit more effort, especially on the higher difficulties. FF does follow the holy trinity of tank>healer>dps. Tanks are in the most demand like in most games, healers tend to be of middling demand but are also expected to contribute dps when healing isn't necessary (and not fail to heal because they tunnel visioned dps), dps tend to be the most difficult to excel at right now though that will likely change in Stormblood with the combat revamp. Obviously dps have the longest queue times since they are a dime a dozen.

The story is the biggest reason to play FFXIV. While it has its fair share of step and fetch and kill X number of mobs quests, nothing is too onerous (no kill 50 of these boars and bring me 3 bear asses from bears who only have a 5% chance of having an ass) so even the fetch/kill quests are painless or even enjoyable. For the most part there's an ongoing main story to follow, and while it starts you out with humble beginnings, it takes the kind of twists an turns you expect in a single player rpg not an MMO, getting more interesting the further you go. Even hard mode versions of dungeons are tied to the story, with modified layouts, bosses, and an actual reason why you are going back to the dungeon and why things are different now.

Some Pros:

Good story that becomes pretty engaging the further along you go, with epic memorable moments along the way.
You can do it all on one character. You can level all classes on one character so no reroll needed if you want to change things up.
The monthly sub has a cheaper option with a limitation of one character per server (which is great in a game that doesn't incentivize alts).
Incredible visuals both in landscapes and skill effects.
Familiar gameplay (its the tab target style combat many grew up with in WoW)
Customizable UI
Glamour system (transmog)
Interesting crafting and gathering classes.
Personal housing.
Good gear isn't only from raiding. While non-raiders gear up slower, they can eventually become competitively geared with raiders. Raids have a slight advantage stat wise, but most perks of raiding are cosmetic (unique mounts, titles, armor models, achievements, etc).

Some Cons:

2.5 second GCD makes game play slower than you might be used to early on. Alleviated as you level and gain more oGCD skills.
Glamour system isn't unlocked till level 50! >.<
Familiar gameplay (if you're looking for more action combat like Tera, FFXIV will disappoint)
Limited character creation options. While you can make nice looking (and even somewhat unique looking) characters, your options are fewer than you might like.
Long series of required quests to transition from the ARR story in the HW xpac story.
Land for non-instanced housing is limited.
Raiders aren't special snowflakes. If your sense of self worth is predicated on comparison to others, you may find that raid gear not being miles ahead of everything else a turn-off.

That's the main stuff off the top of my head.

[Manabomb]

I'm actually having fun with the gameplay of Legion. The problem is the end game with Legion, the levels of RNG is so disheartening it makes me want to go back to XIV where the RNG content is all optional. That and a Legion-style transmog system for glamours, it needs to happen. *Nervously stares at 4 retainers absolutely full of glamour gear, plus a full armory*

Frankly cannot wait until Stormblood. Hopefully then we can see if the gameplay evens out between the two games.

[Metallourlante]

Not to be a dick, but no one can answer the question on whether you will like it or enjoy it but you.

I personally enjoy it immensely.

There is an unlimited free trial that will let you play for as long as you want with some restrictions obviously, such as level cap and communication restrictions (LINK)

And here's the link to the sign up page.

It starts out slow...much slower than WoW as it is a VERY story driven game. Combat is also slow in the beginning for the majority of classes as you have very few abilities and the GCD is 2.5 seconds. If you want to alleviate that a little, try playing as a Pugilist. Combat picks up as levels go on with level 30 being a big kind of break point and it changing pretty profoundly at 50 and then again on your way from 50-60 with the addition of class defining and combat flow altering abilities.

Regardless, if you liked WoW, enjoy story and like the art style of FFXIV I think you'll find yourself at home here.

Sorry if this sound like hijacking the thread, I just discovered I have FFXIV on Steam can I install it and play until level 35 before decide to buy the expansion or adding gametime? Or do I need a separate account to play the free trial?
I bought them probably when there was some discount but never played it, sadly.

[Katchii]

Sorry if this sound like hijacking the thread, I just discovered I have FFXIV on Steam can I install it and play until level 35 before decide to buy the expansion or adding gametime? Or do I need a separate account to play the free trial?
I bought them probably when there was some discount but never played it, sadly.

Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, once you purchase game time there is no way to revert back to a trial account. Pretty easy thing to fix though, just sign up using an alternate e-mail address to get access to the free trial. I would hope you don't have to download the client all over again since you already have it installed but I honestly have no idea how that works in this case.

[Metallourlante]

Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, once you purchase game time there is no way to revert back to a trial account. Pretty easy thing to fix though, just sign up using an alternate e-mail address to get access to the free trial. I would hope you don't have to download the client all over again since you already have it installed but I honestly have no idea how that works in this case.

Thanks for the reply, really appreciated.
I just have to figure out if I can access from the steam client with another email address/account now but I'm pretty sure you're right, it's only the other way around: trials can become full account not vice versa.

[Eleccybubb]

I can't convince you. Only you can do that by picking it up and giving it a try. All people here can offer you are opinions.

Mine is it is a very decent MMO for what it is but it's not without it's flaws. 2.5 sec GCD and some early dungeons at the start of the game was nearly offputting for me for example but I ignored it and kept going at it and at 60 I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. Good content, amazing visuals, awesome mounts and incredible music to boot.

Only really terrible thing about this game is PvP. Nothing really fancy about it and the only 3 game modes at 60 are 2 that are objective based and one Murderball/Deathmatch style instance. Ironically the devs have stated they want to bring PvP to esports yet some data centers are rampant with cheaters.

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Thanks for the reply, really appreciated.
I just have to figure out if I can access from the steam client with another email address/account now but I'm pretty sure you're right, it's only the other way around: trials can become full account not vice versa.

Account management issues is another thing I'm gonna have to be critical of this game for. Mogstation as a new player can be pretty frigging irritating to navigate because it's not built into Lodestone like it should be.

[Kazgrel]

I can't convince you. Only you can do that by picking it up and giving it a try. All people here can offer you are opinions.

Mine is it is a very decent MMO for what it is but it's not without it's flaws. 2.5 sec GCD and some early dungeons at the start of the game was nearly offputting for me for example but I ignored it and kept going at it and at 60 I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. Good content, amazing visuals, awesome mounts and incredible music to boot.

Only really terrible thing about this game is PvP. Nothing really fancy about it and the only 3 game modes at 60 are 2 that are objective based and one Murderball/Deathmatch style instance. Ironically the devs have stated they want to bring PvP to esports yet some data centers are rampant with cheaters.

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Account management issues is another thing I'm gonna have to be critical of this game for. Mogstation as a new player can be pretty frigging irritating to navigate because it's not built into Lodestone like it should be.

The scary part is how vast an improvement the Mogstation and account setup process is for 14 over FF11...good fucking god, that was a nightmare.

OP: Give the game a try with the trial. Do know it starts off painfully slow, but if you get to 35 on a job and things are picking up both gameplay and story wise, you may find it is your MMO of choice.

[Eleccybubb]

The scary part is how vast an improvement the Mogstation and account setup process is for 14 over FF11...good fucking god, that was a nightmare.

Oh god that I agree with. PlayOnline back then was like trying to solve a Rubix cube strapped to a running cheetah while drunk.

But still they need to merge either Lodestone or Mogstation and make it one unified system like Battle.net does.

[DStrukt]

Thanks everyone, opinions is all I wanted, very much appreciated

[Eleccybubb]

The answer is no because there is no universal "MMO to be played right now". The category being asked about does not exist.

To put it another way: if there really were a universally superior MMO, better for all persons, it would be so blindingly obvious you would not have asked the question.

Tbh I don't judge an MMO based on superiority. I base it on my personal enjoyment. I'm still playing ancient MMOs because I enjoy them.

[dope_danny]

Do you like themepark mmos and final fantasy in particular? because theres is no "THE mmo" to play, never has been. Thats like saying there is "THE fighting game to play". Every game i know of with a sub has a free trial those that dont are f2p so you have nothing but time spent downloading to waste trying something for yourself. No games for everyone and to paraphrase the old rule on amazon "never trust the 5 star reviews anymore than the 1 star" a blind gushing review will tell you more about brand loyalty than a games quality, you can only see that for yourself and theres plenty of mmos out there to try.

[Myah]

It is fun.
And if you like RP, i recommend Balmung (will have to create a char at another server and transfer though)

I'm a bit burned from WoW and the wait to fly, so I'm playing it again. I started over a new toon and my only complain are the 100 Main Scenario Quests you get at level 50 before you can transition into Heavensward (and it's needed to unlock a lot of things). I hit 54 of mainly doing those quests before I could start HW. And now there are 100 more HW quests, but they seem to be going a bit faster.

I get it that the story itself is a continuity and it's fine if you're playing before a new expansion, but they could have condensed into fewer quests.




There is the free trial going on. And if you already have an account, there is a free login campaign which gives you 4 days to play.

Edit: Also, if you play on a full server it's better cause social, but getting a house/apartment might be impossible.

[Kyriani]

I'd say going to a mid-populated server is better than one you'll have to pay to transfer to because its full. Not only because full servers mean housing is virtually impossible to get, but also because a full server has so much competition on the market, making gil can be more difficult. What sells for millions on a mid-populated server often sells for only a few hundred thousand on a full/locked server. Sure buying stuff is great there but selling stuff can suck.

[Deleted]

It is fun.
And if you like RP, i recommend Balmung (will have to create a char at another server and transfer though)

I'm a bit burned from WoW and the wait to fly, so I'm playing it again. I started over a new toon and my only complain are the 100 Main Scenario Quests you get at level 50 before you can transition into Heavensward (and it's needed to unlock a lot of things). I hit 54 of mainly doing those quests before I could start HW. And now there are 100 more HW quests, but they seem to be going a bit faster.

I get it that the story itself is a continuity and it's fine if you're playing before a new expansion, but they could have condensed into fewer quests.




There is the free trial going on. And if you already have an account, there is a free login campaign which gives you 4 days to play.

Edit: Also, if you play on a full server it's better cause social, but getting a house/apartment might be impossible.

Aren't they switching that in stormblood so you longer have to complete all the story to go on to the expansion content?