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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Rotted View Post
    17 years old is very very close to the line between adult and juvenile....

    Personally, I don't think there is enough information provided to call it,

    If he's been brought up in a way he doesn't understand the actions of what he does to women, and he legit thought this acceptable behavior, I agree with the course and 2 years, although I'd of said a week or two inside a low secruity prison as a crash scare course would of been in order.

    If he's come over and actively disrespects, thinks he can get away, scummy attitude etc, then he should of have the book thrown at him.
    17 years sure.
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  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by GnomeEU View Post
    17 years sure.
    Every refugee is 17. They have no papers anyway. They're 17 and then suddenly 30... Magic
    Oh you're one of those

  3. #283
    Without knowing how this teen feels about what he did it's impossible to say if the judge was being too lenient. He's just a kid though, it's not uncommon for judges to be lenient with minors.

    How did this go on for 15 pages? SO many angry crazies that wanna throw a teen that groped some girls into jail along with adult rapists, sure that'll be great.
    Last edited by Shiny212; 2017-04-30 at 09:47 AM.

  4. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    "The right"? No, it's more stupid people in general, I'd say.
    Well tomato, tomato.

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    their culture is ok with this shit.
    Their culture is not. They know it's wrong.

    Without knowing how this teen feels about what he did it's impossible to say if the judge was being too lenient
    How someone feel about his crime should not be a deciding factor in the sentence. Everyone but some psychopaths can fake remorse and everyone with a brain will do it.

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  7. #287
    Judge David Kent heard the Victoria-based defendant grabbed his victims on their bottoms, breasts and, in three cases, their vaginas.

    Crown prosecutor Nick McGhee said the defendant was seen swimming up to his victims "in quite a predatory manner".

    When questioned by the lifeguard on duty, the defendant allegedly said: "If I just say sorry, can we forget all about it?"


    Mmmmmmm, no.

    A lot of places around the world it's much more common for men to grope women, Japan and India have "women only" rail cars for example. Still if a Japanese person comes to the US I don't think they'd grope women, knowing that it's frowned on here.
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  8. #288
    More fuel for the lovely Pauline Hanson

    Cannot wait till next Aussie Election

  9. #289
    The US elected someone who admits to doing the same thing as their president. They have no right to judge anyone else in this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    Obviously those women should have been wearing their burqas.
    How is this not infracted while the post below is.
    talking about some good moderating..
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  11. #291
    a 17 year old is not a child. the 17 year olds on my highschool's football team were 6ft men with beards for the most part.

    this shouldn't be taken lightly. anyone calling him a child either didn't read or goes by the idiotic standard that a grown man with a beard can still be a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Not a single person has said that it was ok. You're tilting at windmills broseph. The person you even quoted said there should be more punishment with community service too.



    Everyone that's responded has just mentioned the fact that we don't throw the book at children unless they're murdering people and then dumbasses making a "hur durr their culture!" shitpost. And most of the former have said how it should be stricter...
    Maybe that's why so many kids are little shit stains these days, because there isn't enough reinforcement of the rules and laws when they break them. Start giving them jail sentences and see what happens.

  13. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    a 17 year old is not a child. the 17 year olds on my highschool's football team were 6ft men with beards for the most part.

    this shouldn't be taken lightly. anyone calling him a child either didn't read or goes by the idiotic standard that a grown man with a beard can still be a child.
    Legal limits are legal limits.

    Like the fuck is this, cherry picking when 17 years old people are children and when they are not? If you think he should be judged as an adult at the age of 17, you should also follow your own logic till the end and just make 17 the legal start of adulthood.

    But then people will probably use the same logic with children age 16 until we eventually arrive at the conclusion that newborn children should be sentenced to die for biting their mothers breasts. You know, sexual assault and stuff.

    But yea the kid is probably a moron. Correction was the right sentence. If he ends up being a repeat offender he goes to jail anyway, he didn't walk out of the court room Scot free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Maybe that's why so many kids are little shit stains these days, because there isn't enough reinforcement of the rules and laws when they break them. Start giving them jail sentences and see what happens.
    They associate with gangs inside prison and actually get out worse than they were to begin with?

    Or do you really just want to send them into police station jails? Like, how many do you want to build to host them all?
    Last edited by StayTuned; 2017-04-30 at 01:01 PM.

  14. #294
    I can't fathom a plausible argument for not immediately deporting him. There's really no upside to Australia to have lenient penalties for sexually assaulting 15-year-old girls. Even jailing him is a ridiculous waste of resources - these people simply aren't Australia's problem and misbehavior in response to the openness of inviting people in should be met with retraction of the invite. When people are abject ingrates, they should not continue to reside in their new country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I can't fathom a plausible argument for not immediately deporting him. There's really no upside to Australia to have lenient penalties for sexually assaulting 15-year-old girls. Even jailing him is a ridiculous waste of resources - these people simply aren't Australia's problem and misbehavior in response to the openness of inviting people in should be met with retraction of the invite. When people are abject ingrates, they should not continue to reside in their new country.
    I might imagine that there are legal obstacles in deporting minors.

  16. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by StayTuned View Post
    I might imagine that there are legal obstacles in deporting minors.
    I assume we're discussing what the legal policy should be, not what it currently is. I don't doubt that the current system gives undue deference to this sort of trash, but my claim is that this is an obviously bad setup.

  17. #297
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I assume we're discussing what the legal policy should be, not what it currently is. I don't doubt that the current system gives undue deference to this sort of trash, but my claim is that this is an obviously bad setup.
    Fair enough. Still you have to then think of a new age limit where it's okay to deport minors.

    At the end arbitrary solution will be arbitrary.

    You cannot say 17 is old enough to be deported, but 14 isn't. Why? In what way are these two any different? Or let's even say 16 cannot be deported, but 17 can. You see the challenge this poses?

    Either you have a uniform age limit before the law, or you are subject to arbitrary judgement.

    If this dude was just a bit older and already 18, I'd personally escort him to the airplane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StayTuned View Post
    Fair enough. Still you have to then think of a new age limit where it's okay to deport minors.
    Why does there have to be an age limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StayTuned View Post
    Fair enough. Still you have to then think of a new age limit where it's okay to deport minors.

    At the end arbitrary solution will be arbitrary.

    You cannot say 17 is old enough to be deported, but 14 isn't. Why? In what way are these two any different? Or let's even say 16 cannot be deported, but 17 can. You see the challenge this poses?

    Either you have a uniform age limit before the law, or you are subject to arbitrary judgement.

    If this dude was just a bit older and already 18, I'd personally escort him to the airplane.
    I think this is literally what judges are for. Judgment will inherently be somewhat subjective, but that's different from arbitrary. If the case seems to be one where the participant was entirely willful and engaging in sexual assault (as in this case), it's hard for me to figure out why I should care at all if he's 17 or 18. It's not as though a 17 year old isn't familiar with the notion that grabbing girls on the beach isn't entirely copacetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StayTuned View Post
    But yea the kid is probably a moron. Correction was the right sentence. If he ends up being a repeat offender he goes to jail anyway, he didn't walk out of the court room Scot free.
    The correct sentence would've been to imprison him and then deport him. No second chances for people who come to a country under the pretense of seeking protection and then committing crime. No country is under any obligation to provide protection to those who will attack their citizens.

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