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    Jordan - No more pardons for rapists who marry their victims

    Well done to Jordan for making the first steps in punishing rapists, like a true civilized country.

    http://www.dw.com/en/jordan-no-more-...ims/a-38633580

    "In some Arab countries, men who rape a woman but then marry her are protected from prosecution. But legislative changes approved by parliament in Jordan are making this a thing of the past.

    For Jordan's MPs, it was time. In a bold move, the Jordanian government decided to change one of the most controversial articles in the country's laws. Article 308 had been a source of contention for years. It permitted rapists to go unpunished as long as they married their victims and stayed with them for at least three years.

    Opposition to the law had been growing for some time, and numerous international organizations shared in the criticism. They say it was partly behind the recent increase in the number of so-called honor killings: family members of the victim say they often didn't know what else to do, and so took matters into their own hands.

    The decision by parliament follows an awareness campaign mounted by both Muslim and Christian activists. For years, women's rights activists in Jordan have been calling for Article 308 to be changed. They say it represented a double punishment for female victims of rape: first the rape itself, then being forced to wed their attacker.

    Legal protection for rapists

    "The decision that's been made now is the result of years of activism for better legal protection for women," said Jordanian women's rights activist Amal Jaber al-Atrash. "But as important as this is, there are still numerous loopholes in the law. Women who get pregnant as a result of rape are still unprotected because the rapist is not obligated to provide for a child that is born out of rape."

    She says there are varying opinions over why Article 308 and other laws like it were introduced in the Arab world. One theory is that the law was designed to protect a victim's reputation, but Atrash has another explanation. She says the goal was to bring the problem of rape into the legal sphere, but the end effect was that rapists enjoyed legal protection - not victims.

    Legal situation in other Arab countries

    Morocco has a different situation. There, rapists are punished with a prison sentence of between five and 20 years. In 2014, the country scrapped a provision offering pardons to rapists who married their victims. The change was prompted by the case of 16-year-old Amina Filali. In 2012, she was forced to marry her rapist, prompting her to commit suicide by swallowing rat poison. The case sparked outrage both in Morocco and abroad. Human rights organizations got involved, and began demanding a change to the law protecting rapists.

    Change also appears to be underway in Lebanon. In mid-April, activists staged a protest, hanging wedding dresses from nooses along a beach in Beirut to press lawmakers into scrapping Article 522 from the country's penal code, which stipulates that rapists marry their victims as a sort of "reparation." No statistics exist on such cases in Lebanon, but the law is still valid, particularly in rural regions. "Every day, women have to fear being raped, and then forced to marry their abusers," said Alia Awada. She heads a campaign called "Abad" ("Distance"), which is working to have Article 522 abolished.

    Victims often subject to legal persecution

    Things work differently in Saudi Arabia. The country doesn't have a penal code; crimes are punished under Sharia law. Previous punishments have ranged from lashes to the death penalty. But if the crime took place in a location where women are not permitted, then the victim is also punished.

    Sudan, too, has tough regulations for the victims of rape. If a woman reports a rape, she must also reckon with some form of punishment. She has to prove that the act took place against her will. If she fails to do so, she will also face charges.

    Tunisia also offers pardons to rapists who marry their victims under a provision known as Article 227. The International Court has called for the article to be abolished, but of 100 political parties, only 32 voted in favor, meaning that Article 227 can still be enforced.

    Legal change is just the first step


    Human rights activists are now hoping that the vote to change the law in Jordan will lead to similar reforms in other Arab countries. "However, there is still a whole range of other laws that undermine the rights of women," said Jordanian activist Atrash. She says that scrapping legal protection for rapists is just the first step down a much longer path of reform."

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    This change is just a first small step, they are still far away from being a civilized country. The fact they have been even debating this issue underlines it.
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    Good for Jordan first the mosque thing now this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    This change is just a first small step, they are still far away from being a civilized country. The fact they have been even debating this issue underlines it.
    Maybe you're right. But even so, it a step in the right direction. Also, some countries you might consider civilized still have a similar problem... for example, Belgium!
    "In Belgium, a rapist who admits their guilt can be exempted from punishment by reaching a “settlement” with their victim."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7613496.html

    It's not as bad as being forced to marry the victim, but still not ok, as the rapist could threaten the victim into a settlement.

    Belgium even kept people, most notably black people from Africa, in human zoos until the 1970's.

    Yet we consider Belgium a civlized country today. Because it made some progress. And Jordan is doing so as well. Progress takes time, especially in these circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowraven View Post
    Belgium even kept people, most notably black people from Africa, in human zoos until the 1970's.
    ..........what?

    By having some Congolese people shown once in an exhibition in 1958 you are both stretching the timeline and the term "human zoo". Clickbait argumentation.

    EDIT: They weren't in captivity either. Just paid actors more or less.
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    Jordan - No more pardons for rapists who marry their victims

    It's a start.
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    It is a first step but nowadays it seems so normal that it remains shocking that it happens today.
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    Makes me think of Michael Jordan and how he was suspended for 2 seasons for gambling. I'd never heard of "Jordan" until Mike came along, so yeah, even the country is linked to one of the top... 10ish basketball players ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    This change is just a first small step, they are still far away from being a civilized country. The fact they have been even debating this issue underlines it.
    The Middle East isn't going to turn around in a heart beat. It'll be baby steps like this.
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    What happened to 'try before you buy'? Consumer rights in Jordan just took a step back.

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    Slowly but surely.

    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    What happened to 'try before you buy'? Consumer rights in Jordan just took a step back.
    Am I a horrible person for laughing at this? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    Am I a horrible person for laughing at this? :P
    You just have a twisted sense of humor

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    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    What happened to 'try before you buy'? Consumer rights in Jordan just took a step back.
    You can still return faulty hardware for a full refund (within the first 12 months).

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