Young LePen supporters: 'We are the future and this is what we want'

[Freighter]

It is when discussing oppression

No, it is not. We are talking about politics.

[Machismo]

No, it is not.

If you wish to further your political goals, one should try to gain power within the government. However, the entire reason for that, is to have the power to compel others via force to go along with those political goals. Without force, then governments are meaningless. They have no power, and it's just a circle jerk.

[Freighter]

If you wish to further your political goals, one should try to gain power within the government. However, the entire reason for that, is to have the power to compel others via force to go along with those political goals. Without force, then governments are meaningless. They have no power, and it's just a circle jerk.

You probably should read up on what political violence actually is.

[Machismo]

You probably should read up on what political violence actually is.

And, you should look up what force is.

If you want power within a government, you want the force that goes along with being in charge. Without that force, you have no power.

[Freighter]

And, you should look up what force is.

If you want power within a government, you want the force that goes along with being in charge. Without that force, you have no power.

The government exercising authority is not political violence. What you want to do is political violence.

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And just to ask.. what has this discussion to do with Le Pen?

[DJ117]

Literally in two sentences you contradicted yourself. Denmark has Celtic and Germanic roots, and has been influenced by countless cultures that it traded/interacted with. It's only 'ever been inhabited by Danes' in the very thin sense that the people from that geographical area have called themselves that.

Basically every culture is the same, because people move around, and they fuck each other. Your bloodline is no purer than anyone else's, as I'm sure a DNA test would demonstrate.

Also if racial supremacy means being as dense as you clearly seem to be, I think I'll pass.

For some strange reason, all I read is 'cuck' when I read your sentences. You and I will never agree, but I know who will win in the civil war to come.

[Freighter]

For some strange reason, all I read is 'cuck' when I read your sentences. You and I will never agree, but I know who will win in the civil war to come.

There will be no civil war in europe due to immigration. Might be one due to extremists on other hand.

[Machismo]

The government exercising authority is not political violence. What you want to do is political violence.

No, I want to prevent oppression, regardless of who is doing the oppressing. I don't much care if it's government, or individuals.

I have never called for political violence just for the sake of violence.

[Freighter]

No, I want to prevent oppression, regardless of who is doing the oppressing. I don't much care if it's government, or individuals.

I have never called for political violence just for the sake of violence.

You said you would use force because you like freedom more than democracy. That is political violence, by definition. Stop yourself from wanting to oppress others then, if you want to prevent oppression.

[Machismo]

You said you would use force because you like freedom more than democracy. That is political violence, by definition. Stop yourself from wanting to oppress others then, if you want to prevent oppression.

I said I would use force to prevent oppression. Sometimes democracies oppress, sometimes dictators do. Sometimes, it's just a normal person raping a woman. In every case, I would be willing to use violence to prevent that oppression.

[Freighter]

That's a very naive view of democracy. There are so many ways in which the democratic process can be subverted.

Take the UK for example. Here we have a first past the post system where the leader is determined on the basis of how certain constituencies voted. This means that the deciding factor in an election is not in fact what the majority of people think, but instead what a select few demographics in a select few constituencies think; there are countless areas here where an individual's vote counts for nothing because X number of people have traditionally voted, and can be relied upon voting a certain way; those areas are ignored because they're 'safe'. Most constituencies are like this. The only important constituencies are those in which the outcome is uncertain, where people can be influenced. As a result, the election comes down to which party can best influences a select number of undecided voters, in a select few constituencies.

Similarly flawed systems exist in other countries too, the USA is one of them.

These are not truly democratic systems, and 'suck it up' isn't really an appropriate response when the ruling party at any given time actually only truly represents a select minority of voters who determine the outcome of the election. It's not as simple as 'moving somewhere else', because more often than not, the voting population as a whole can for the most part share similar values to you, but the issue becomes one of representation.

I don't know why you would call an oligarchy a democracy.

[Kallisto]

Several journalists have gone into Swedens sharia-controlled ghettos only to be attacked and driven out.

Cite these sources and not from some random nobody blog or rightists daily mailesque media source or concede.

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Cite these sources and not from some random nobody blog or rightists daily mailesque media source or concede.

No no-go zones.

[Machismo]

No no-go zones.

You should ban no-go zones, that sounds like a restriction of freedoms.

[Deleted]

You should ban no-go zones, that sounds like a restriction of freedoms.

I wouldn't ban them, I would enforce the law. But yes, in your mind I would oppress criminals not accepting laws.

[Machismo]

I wouldn't ban them, I would enforce the law.

If you enforce the law, then there would be no no-go zones.

[Deleted]

No no-go zones.

How ridiculous.

"U know ter are tad bars where there a no woman coz you know..".. while they show some consumer zone in a less inhabited citiy zone.. where absolutely nothing special happens.

The rest is "told story", which could be made up.

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If you enforce the law, then there would be no no-go zones.

If I enforce the law, there will be less criminals. Why do you think it's a bad thing?

How ridiculous.

"U know ter are tad bars where there a no woman coz you know..".. while they show some consumer zone in a less inhabited citiy zone.. where absolutely nothing special happens.

The rest is "told story", which could be made up.

Police was escorting them for a reason. So instead of enforcing law, they conform to "local" laws. Pure definition of no-go zones.

[Machismo]

If I enforce the law, there will be less criminals. Why do you think it's a bad thing?



Police was escorting them for a reason. So instead of enforcing law, they conform to "local" laws. Pure definition of no-go zones.

I didn't say it was, did I?

Of course, depending on what law you are talking about, you may have more criminals. The existence of a law is never a justification for it, so there should always be a logical and consistent reason for any law.