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    Quote Originally Posted by Exeris View Post
    I don't know how your country works, if the investigation stops after a loyal leader was chosen shouldn't there be an investigation as to why that suddenly happened?

    Will the Democrats just accept?
    The Republicans have a majority in both houses, and most are tied to big financial parties and don't have clean hands anymore. The few Republicans who are honest are siding with the Democrats and we're gonna see soon enough if they can form a majority to investigate and stop Trump.

    Not many "checks and balances" left in the US to stop this i'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    The Republicans have a majority in both houses, and most are tied to big financial parties and don't have clean hands anymore. The few Republicans who are honest are siding with the Democrats and we're gonna see soon enough if the form a majority to investigate and stop Trump.

    Not many "checks and balances" left in the US to stop this i'm afraid.
    The country's hopes rest on the shoulders of the Senate for now.
    These guys seem to have enough reasonable people in their ranks to prevent any disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    The few Republicans who are honest are siding with the Democrats and we're gonna see soon enough if the form a majority to investigate and stop Trump.

    Not many "checks and balances" left in the US to stop this i'm afraid.
    "honest" and republican/democrat cannot be put in same sentence. There aren't any honest politicians. Honest people stay away from politics because nothing can be done without exchanging favors, without support of corporate lobbyists, thus making any politician corrupt.

    Checks and balances are all meaningless as long as lobbying is legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    It's not really about the Senators who are honest. It's about those who are up for reelection in 2018 and are not liking their odds.
    It's as close to honest as it'll get...

    Honestly, I don't care wether they do sonething out of the kindness of their heart, or to save their asses. As long as the end result is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    The country's hopes rest on the shoulders of the Senate for now.
    These guys seem to have enough reasonable people in their ranks to prevent any disaster.
    W'll see.

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    Has it been mentioned that Rosenstein threatened to quit if the WH continued to pin this on him, so they had to changed the story and admit it was mostly Trump?

    Fucking L. O. L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exeris View Post
    I don't know how your country works, if the investigation stops after a loyal leader was chosen shouldn't there be an investigation as to why that suddenly happened?

    Will the Democrats just accept?
    The republicans currently control all branches of government. There is little the democrats could do. Moreover the worry is not that the investigation will just suddenly end, but that it will be starved of resources, run poorly, moved in directions that lead away from Trump, etc. The investigation does not need to be directly killed off to be killed off. In fact that is the least likely outcome. The likely outcome is that if Trump is able to put in place someone loyal to him that he/she would do just as I suggested and end it without appearing to. Then some months later they would announce nothing found, and close it permanently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    The country's hopes rest on the shoulders of the Senate for now.
    These guys seem to have enough reasonable people in their ranks to prevent any disaster.
    Can the Senate demand access to an investigation done by the FBI?

    I find it strange that the Democrats even though currently a minority basically just have to sit and watch this, I'm questioning if justice is a priority in your government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exeris View Post
    Can the Senate demand access to an investigation done by the FBI?

    I find it strange that the Democrats even though currently a minority basically just have to sit and watch this, I'm questioning if justice is a priority in your government.
    No, not really. The only priorities in the government are large corporations and money.

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    Is it just me or is Sessions the most despicable of all of these assholes?
    Not just you. Sessions will end up being one of the darkest shitstains on the American justice system to have ever served.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Has it been mentioned that Rosenstein threatened to quit if the WH continued to pin this on him, so they had to changed the story and admit it was mostly Trump?

    Fucking L. O. L.
    Gotta hand it to Rosenstein for not taking this shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    The republicans currently control all branches of government. There is little the democrats could do. Moreover the worry is not that the investigation will just suddenly end, but that it will be starved of resources, run poorly, moved in directions that lead away from Trump, etc. The investigation does not need to be directly killed off to be killed off. In fact that is the least likely outcome. The likely outcome is that if Trump is able to put in place someone loyal to him that he/she would do just as I suggested and end it without appearing to. Then some months later they would announce nothing found, and close it permanently.
    The more answers I get only makes me more frustrated and slightly depressed. :\

    Is there any type of quality control so to speak of the FBI?

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    Wait, so there was a White House photographer?

    That makes whole thing the perfect example of fake news.
    @Breccia
    I know right???

    Except Trump's regime claims that Russia didn't tell them that their photographer, for Russia's top spy recruiter, was a state-run media guy. So, ya know, they just let him in.

    “We were not informed by the Russians that their official photographer was dual-hatted and would be releasing the photographs on the state news agency,” a Trump regime official told the Washington Post.

    So, the Trump administration is so fucking incompetent they didn't bother to tell the Russians "no, he's not coming in here." As for the official White House photographer, almost 24 hours later. and after several updates, there are still no pictures of the meeting.But, at least we know Pence has a fuckin rabbit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exeris View Post
    The more answers I get only makes me more frustrated and slightly depressed. :\

    Is there any type of quality control so to speak of the FBI?
    Yes, but its all in the hands of republicans who control all the branches of the federal government.
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    I know right???

    Except Trump's regime claims that Russia didn't tell them that their photographer, for Russia's top spy recruiter, was a state-run media guy. So, ya know, they just let him in.

    “We were not informed by the Russians that their official photographer was dual-hatted and would be releasing the photographs on the state news agency,” a Trump regime official told the Washington Post.

    So, the Trump administration is so fucking incompetent they didn't bother to tell the Russians "no, he's not coming in here." As for the official White House photographer, almost 24 hours later. and after several updates, there are still no pictures of the meeting.But, at least we know Pence has a fuckin rabbit!
    Yep. I guess White House photographer bills by hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exeris View Post
    Can the Senate demand access to an investigation done by the FBI?

    I find it strange that the Democrats even though currently a minority basically just have to sit and watch this, I'm questioning if justice is a priority in your government.
    They can get some access to the reports but if the administration deems it a ''national security threat'' they can hide huge parts of the report.

    The Senate needs to push for his own independent investigation if they want to avoid things like this but republicans won't push for this easily (excluding those that hate trump like McCain) because that would be seen as betrayal.
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    As far as I can tell, Donald Trump is the only thing on earth that is no-one's fetish.

    Even among people who are into fat old guys.
    You never heard of Ben Garrison?

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    This is a really good article on the subject


    Comey’s Firing: Clintonian, NOT Nixonian


    The last 24 hours in Washington has brought to bare a political name and time in our country’s history that makes most shudder.

    Before his dismissal, FBI Director James Comey was leading probes into Trump associates’ connections to Russia during the 2016 election.

    To many lawmakers, the FBI director’s firing was reminiscent of when then-President Nixon fired Archibald Cox, the special prosecutor charged with investigating the Watergate scandal.

    Sen. Edward Markey of Massachusetts said of the Comey dismissal, “President Trump’s firing of Director Comey sets a deeply alarming precedent as multiple investigations into possible Trump campaign or administration collusion with Russia remain ongoing, including an FBI investigation. This episode is disturbingly reminiscent of the Saturday Night Massacre during the Watergate scandal and the national turmoil that it caused.”

    Here’s what Markey gets wildly wrong. Trump associates Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort are under investigation, an investigation, according to a source at the FBI, that will continue despite political talking points that it will end. The president is NOT under direct investigation, and any notion of “collusion” between Mr. Trump and Russia has been widely rebuked as having any merit by those who have classified clearance.

    Nixon, you probably recall, WAS under investigation. His phones had been “wiretapped” as part of the Watergate scandal. Evidence suggests Trump’s phones have been “surveilled” as well, although as noted, he is not under investigation.

    Trump firing Comey is Clintonian. Bill Clinton was the last president to fire an FBI director and under very similar circumstances.

    Trump firing Comey is not Nixonian.
    The Russia Investigation Will Continue

    An independent counsel and commission should be appointed to continue the Russia ties investigation. But a special prosecutor seems over the top.

    Senators on both sides of the aisle are calling for assurances that the process be transparent and thorough, and the president should replace Comey with a no nonsense, apolitical FBI director, someone capable of seeing that investigation through.

    According to a former FBI agent, regardless of the agency’s leadership, the Russia investigation will continue. “The director doesn’t run the investigation, the assistant director doesn’t run it, and the unit chiefs don’t run it. There’s a case agent or a series of case agents assigned to run it all the way through.”

    Vice President Mike Pence noted Comey’s dismissal had “nothing to do with the Russian Investigation.”

    If the president proffers a replacement that is less than transparent, given the wariness with which prominent senators and representatives have so far viewed the firing, it could have serious repercussions. Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz said the firing of Comey was appropriate but noted, “Who the President appoints is key. If he appoints a man or a woman of great integrity, this date will not go down in history because we will have been proved wrong that it was some kind of a cover-up.”
    Why Was Comey Fired?

    First, he was President Obama’s appointment.

    Second. Comey’s handling of the Hillary Clinton e-mail scandal left much to be desired. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wrote, “Comey was wrong to close the investigation into whether Clinton should be prosecuted for running a private e-mail server from her New York residence when she was secretary of state. The director laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial. It is a textbook example of what federal prosecutors and agents are taught not to do.”
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    Third. Comey’s failure to direct the agency to pursue those responsible for the leaking of classified materials and the unmasking of American citizens, both criminal offenses. Several times in the past few weeks the president has pointed to his frustrations over the FBI’s lack of interest and investigation into these matters.

    In a prepared White House statement the president wrote, “The FBI is one of our nation’s most cherished and respected institutions, and today will mark a new beginning for our crown jewel of law enforcement.”

    FBI Deputy Director Andrew McAbe will assume the acting director role, unless a special prosecutor is appointed to oversee the FBI probe, as some Democrats have called for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Is it just me or is Sessions the most despicable of all of these assholes?
    Of all the assholes hes installed its a tough pick. I would say steve mnuchin is pretty good competition though. Bannon as well.
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    Feinstein is saying shes seen no evidence of Trump being a cock holster. =o[

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