Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

[cubby]

Question to a few of you here:

Now, firing Comey was a stupid move, as I was against before the instantaneous turnaround of the Trump administration and the Democratic party about Comey.

But there's clearly some people making it out bigger than it is really and I must ask something:

Are you aware that by buying into the hysteria surrounding this, you're possibly drowning the real information by being so easily manipulated by crunchy headlines?

Just a thought.

Are you aware that when you present a question that is so obviously bias, no one believes your sincerity? The "hysteria" is the multiple and ridiculous lies Trump and the GOP are pushing about why Comey was fired.

[alexw]

Question to a few of you here:

Now, firing Comey was a stupid move, as I was against before the instantaneous turnaround of the Trump administration and the Democratic party about Comey.

But there's clearly some people making it out bigger than it is really and I must ask something:

Are you aware that by buying into the hysteria surrounding this, you're possibly drowning the real information by being so easily manipulated by crunchy headlines?

Just a thought.

Bigger than what? We know Trump fired him because of the investigation into him and his associates. We know there are two grand juries active against Trump and associates. It also appears likely that one of them is against Trump himself and pertains to money laundering and thus RICO statutes.

None of this is reaching. This has all been pretty much confirmed at this point.

[Edge-]

Are you aware that by buying into the hysteria surrounding this, you're possibly drowning the real information by being so easily manipulated by crunchy headlines?

Considering all the context surrounding this - Comey making the request for additional resources for the Russia investigation from the Justice Department days ago, grand jury subpeonas being issued hours before he was fired, reports of Sessions being directed to find reasons to fire him, and more - I think that's a pretty unlikely situation right now. This very much seems like things are unraveling at an even faster rate than before, and the Trump camp is panicking.

[cubby]

What's the "real information" ?

Question to a few of you here:

Are you aware that by buying into the hysteria surrounding this, you're possibly drowning the real information by being so easily manipulated by crunchy headlines?

Let me tell you how this will go with good 'ol BloodElf. He'll make some wild accusations, tell us all we're blowing it out of proportion, and then dig down into one specific argument that he thinks he's "winning", and when presented with facts demonstrating that he's wrong, he'll argue till the end of time he was misunderstood and just wanted to ask a simple non-partisan question, confused why he's being "attacked".

On political stuff, this is how he operates. His "question" is just his way of getting back into the discussion. The answer is: Trump's Letter.

[Belize]

Who the fuck on the Trump team thought that having a photo op with Henry Kissinger 24 hours after firing Comey was a good idea?

This whole affair - Trumps candidacy, the election, his presidency, the events of the past few days, all of it - has to be the worlds most elaborate return of Punk'd ever. I'm totally waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out of a van somewhere and run on cameras with his sideways hat and shout, "YOU JUST GOT PUNK'D, AMERICA!" This is too ludicrous to not be scripted and staged with the express intent of being dramatic for the sake of drama.

I was just thinking the same thing. Trump's staff must simply be fucking with him at this point.

"Hey, people are comparing me to Nixon. Let's have a photo shoot with Kissinger!"

[Zandalarian Paladin]

How is Trump firing the man investigating him not a big deal (or the biggest deal for that matter) and what real information is being drowned out right now?

I don't recall arguing it was not a big deal. I did say there was hysteria, as in overreaction. Something can be big and still fall into a conspiracy.

What's the "real information" ?

Nobody knows, but hearsay from anonymous sources that cannot be traced back should at least makes you aware that perhaps it's not entirely true, as per all those anonymous sources that released "documents" or intelligence info which ended being debunked. Don't give Fuel to Trump's "Lying Medias" thing.

Are you aware that when you present a question that is so obviously bias, no one believes your sincerity? The "hysteria" is the multiple and ridiculous lies Trump and the GOP are pushing about why Comey was fired.

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Bigger than what? We know Trump fired him because of the investigation into him and his associates. We know there are two grand juries active against Trump and associates. It also appears likely that one of them is against Trump himself and pertains to money laundering and thus RICO statutes.

None of this is reaching. This has all been pretty much confirmed at this point.

But it hasn't. That's the thing, it hasn't. It's an amalgation of patched anonymous sources. Why jump to conclusion so early and risk -- again -- to give Trump more fuel?

Considering all the context surrounding this - Comey making the request for additional resources for the Russia investigation from the Justice Department days ago, grand jury subpeonas being issued hours before he was fired, reports of Sessions being directed to find reasons to fire him, and more - I think that's a pretty unlikely situation right now. This very much seems like things are unraveling at an even faster rate than before, and the Trump camp is panicking.

Yes, that's the part we should be focusing on, because that's the part where the whole thing actually has meanings.

[cubby]

I was just thinking the same thing. Trump's staff must simply be fucking with him at this point.

"Hey, people are comparing me to Nixon. Let's have a photo shoot with Kissinger!"

It's possible that at this point Trump's remaining staff are just that stupid. Really. History and facts aren't their strong point.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

What's the hidden info nobody is seeing? We have reports that this is because he was unfit from the WH and people loyal to Trump. We also have everyone from the news to Congresspeople from both sides of the aisle to analysts who think the timing is fishy. Is there some third piece of news we're missing where Trump nuked NK or some shit while we were all watching the Comey distraction?

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I don't think people have been missing that...

Tell that to the people who think it's a matter of kissing rings in this very thread, or who spend their whole day arguing that anonymous sources of unknown origin are failproof. I've seen Trump grow strong enough for the time being. Let's not give him more than he ought to have...

[GreenJesus]

I'm also looking forward to reading Skroe's thoughts. I know he does some work on the side to try and protest the trump administration (sorry if I fudged the details). Would love to know how I can help with stuff like that in anyway.

I post on my facebook to try and convince some of my friends who drank the coolaid or those who normally don't go out and vote. Would love to figure out more about how I can help do volunteer work for protests until we get an independent investigation going.

"I post on facebook sometimes." LUL... yeh okay Mr. I Change the World.

[Edge-]

Yes, that's the part we should be focusing on, because that's the part where the whole thing actually has meanings.

...and that's what folks are focusing on dude. Every one of those things is connected to Comey being fired, you can't talk about those without talking about Comey being fired and the "hysteria".

[Shadowmelded]

Nobody knows, but hearsay from anonymous sources that cannot be traced back should at least makes you aware that perhaps it's not entirely true, as per all those anonymous sources that released "documents" or intelligence info which ended being debunked. Don't give Fuel to Trump's "Lying Medias" thing.

So you've changed from "this is a smokescreen for something bigger" to discrediting the story.

[GreenJesus]

Seems like you failed to even actually read that link. Your entire post is summarized basically to, "guys, we can't know anything so lets just stop talking."

You're more than welcome to stop talking.

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You really do like to turn everything someone or something says into a complete hyperbole. Why are you posting if you're not going to be constructive at all?

Because this whole thread is hyperbole.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Because this whole thread is hyperbole.

That's still not an excuse but it par for the course with you given post history.

[cubby]

Damn, you nailed it pretty much perfectly from the response of his just now.

Thanks. I've done the full tour with him before. Look out for click-bait and infraction-bait responses. He should start down the wounded innocent questioner pretty soon - there are too many smart people on atm for him to last much longer.

Politically, he's as crazy as Ransath and Zenkai - however, outside of politics, I find him to be very pleasant with multiple perspectives on subjects. Very nice, but odd. Probably like me, lol.

He'll question the sources of anything he disagrees with, and will refuse basic journalistic techniques, such as "sources" and anonymous" while using those same things to back his own claims, when he actually bothers to cite anything, which he won't.

I'm not attacking him, I'm just laying down how I think it will go.

Answer to BlookElf's question: Trump's Letter.

[omfgreally]

About time that corrupt bastard is gone!

[Zandalarian Paladin]

...and that's what folks are focusing on dude. Every one of those things is connected to Comey being fired, you can't talk about those without talking about Comey being fired and the "hysteria".

Oh, talking is fine. Acting as if every one of these is true is the issue.

Look, we've seen what "Fake News" did. We've seen how easily it can backfire.

If you give attention to deductive leaps, or to anonymous reporting, you're fueling Trump. That's how he works.

If you speak of his letter, which is actual evidence, and the fact that yes, Comey has been terminated, that's the facts. You can't twist those. The GoP is already sweating their life out of this and are doing everything they can to detract attention from it.

That's nothing new -- That's exactly what the DNC did with the e-mail leaks.

So you've changed from "this is a smokescreen for something bigger" to discrediting the story.

Actually no, that's still my point. But you're getting sidetracked by an overwhelming amount of information, which in turn gives a golden opportunity to you know who to just shrug it away as fake news.

[cubby]

The fucking irony in this single post is astounding. Calling the entire thread hyperbole is a hyperbole within itself. Some fucking hyperbolception shit going on here.

Christopher Nolan's next movie title?

I had the same response . . . using hyperbole to label an entire thread hyperbole. Shit is getting real.

[KyleEverett]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politi...sia/index.html

There are two reasons why President Donald Trump fired James Comey, according to a source close to the now-former FBI director:

1. Comey never provided the President with any assurance of personal loyalty.
2. The fact that the FBI's investigation into possible Trump team collusion with Russia in the 2016 election was accelerating.

Trump actually asks people for personal assurances of loyalty to him alone? Daaaaang. I thought public officials swear to serve the Country and the Constitution, not the President.

[GreenJesus]

The fucking irony in this single post is astounding. Calling the entire thread hyperbole is a hyperbole within itself. Some fucking hyperbolception shit going on here.

See? I was right. My post is included in this thread. My hyerbole labeling this thread hyperbole was hyperbole itself making the hyperbole hyperbolistic. No homo.

[Shadowferal]

Gotta wonder why Trump and his zealots are so opposed to getting exonerated by the investigation.