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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalkinDude View Post
    Sharing a source and how the intel was collected (unnecessary) and the actual intel gained (necessary) are two totally different things. Trump admitted to the latter, and denies the former. As president he's perfectly within his purview to share intel he deems necessary to a joint military exercise.
    Except there is no join military exercise and the info shared could put the source at risk because he overshared. But it's ok because the story now is that he didn't know he was telling classified information because no one told him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalkinDude View Post
    Sharing a source and how the intel was collected (unnecessary) and the actual intel gained (necessary) are two totally different things. Trump admitted to the latter, and denies the former. As president he's perfectly within his purview to share intel he deems necessary to a joint military exercise.
    Except, once again, the same administration claiming nothing was compromised, asked news agencies to not report the details, because it compromises sources and methods.

    You can't square that circle, no matter how hard you deny or obfuscate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Bruce Bartlett, Republican adviser for Reagan and Bush '41.

    His feed is interesting. Although the reason for the GOP not to criticize Trump being Absolute, unquestioning, unwavering Republican Party loyalty is the simple reason... They are no cowards, they are cult members, well wonderful, what a relief !

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    It IS sad. Whether u hate or love trump you have to be able to see how divided and broken he has made this country. In my 30 years of life I've never seen such public and blatant outrage over a sitting president. Sure they all come with their share of scandals, but nowhere NEAR the level that this has been and he's only been here just over 100 days ..

    That in of itself is pretty telling.
    That was the culture started by president Obama of divide and conquer. Remember he got what 99% of the black vote?

  5. #1425
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Oh yes another person who doesn't like trump / didn't voted for him and yet always defends him. Let me guess... "Independent voter" too. You're like the 8th this thread.

    Could you be more entirely full of it? Really. Just stop. Nobody believes you. You failed. Nobody cares. Do something else. PM me if you want ideas.
    I didn't vote for Trump,

    Trump being an idiot
    Anti Trump people being crazy idiots


    Not mutually exclusive. Why don't you go celebrate the deaths of innocent Iraqis while calling others white supremacist some more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Would you be satisfied with link to photographer's facebook post about it? On the same name as "getty images" that were attributes to TASS (because he is also TASS photographer when not acting in official capacity)

    https://www.facebook.com/ascherbak/p...12964001723571
    No, I wouldn't - but a similar post from someone on the U.S. would work. The reason isn't because it was the source you provided, but because that is a Russian national, and since he was vetted for the position, I would be reluctant to give him any "independent" status - and therefore cannot be trusted.

    The facebook post from the White House photographer would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalkinDude View Post
    Sharing a source and how the intel was collected (unnecessary) and the actual intel gained (necessary) are two totally different things. Trump admitted to the latter, and denies the former.
    It probably is true that he didn't even know the source of the information or how it was obtained.

    Remember that our intelligence officials have been withholding that information from him. Now we know why, because he probably would have blurted that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerus View Post
    Except there is no join military exercise and the info shared could put the source at risk because he overshared. But it's ok because the story now is that he didn't know he was telling classified information because no one told him.
    Wait...are you serious? Do you have a link to this pivot? I know they're saying he doesn't know the source of the intel (which makes sense), but this is the first I'm hearing that he didn't even know the info he was sharing was classified.

  9. #1429
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    No. This is how anonymous source reporting works.

    Care to review how it brought down the last President, because let's remember who the "anonymous source" was in 1972.


    The Deputy Director of the FBI.

    You're not winning this. We have Trump exactly where we want him. Isolated. Battered by 10 days of Russia stories and about to go on a foreign trip where he is vulnerable to bombshells at home.

    Are you ready for this week Satimy? I know I am. I can't wait.
    The deep throat now is likely bannon. I can't see how it could be anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalkinDude View Post
    Sharing a source and how the intel was collected (unnecessary) and the actual intel gained (necessary) are two totally different things. Trump admitted to the latter, and denies the former. As president he's perfectly within his purview to share intel he deems necessary to a joint military exercise.
    So then you admit that he has done everything I said. To wit, this -

    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    So then you agree that Trump released highly classified information which was not ours to share, and which was given to us by an allied nation, meaning that Trump has potentially put the life of their agent on the ground at risk. Hence there is now an exceedingly good chance that that agent will now be withdrawn, because one thing you do not do, a golden rule if you will, is intentionally put the lives of your operatives at undue risk.

    By doing all this he has also imperiled our long term national security due to undermining long standing intelligence community relationships. The nation which Trump just gave the finger to will be rightly furious, and its already having implications with respect to our European partners and their willingness to share information that we use to help safeguard our nation.

    And you are seemingly unconcerned about all of this. For gods sake why?
    So I'll ask again why are you OK with this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump,

    Trump being an idiot
    Anti Trump people being crazy idiots


    Not mutually exclusive. Why don't you go celebrate the deaths of innocent Iraqis while calling others white supremacist some more
    Yea, it's not the dude who doesn't exercise because he thinks his body his a finite supply of energy to use up that's a crazy idiot, it's everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    The deep throat now is likely bannon. I can't see how it could be anyone else.
    Bannon doesn't have the spine or patriotism to be the source. I doubt he can even find the time to leak anything between his day job at the White House and his night job in the seedy bars getting blackout drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    The deep throat now is likely bannon. I can't see how it could be anyone else.
    You're thinking of the wrong kind of deep throat.

    Understandable why you'd be so confused.

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    Im kind of torn on this subject after watching the briefing again during lunch.

    I have no reason to discard anything McMaster says. I refuse to believe this is the kind of man that would tow the line for a guy like Trump. I could be wrong, but until proven otherwise, I feel like I have no choice but to believe the guy. Just take a look at the mans credentials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._McMaster .

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Yes sharing that we are fighting ISIS is really letting the cat out of the bag. Wapo was trying to paint this as him leaking operational secrets, maybe he did. But there is this little thing called evidence and credibility of sources, of which Wapo have never achieved covering this president
    So you didn't read anything about this situation and are just guessing now? Fabulous. When you've bothered to learn the facts of the situation, then we can talk. But until you can at least understand this basic issues, it's useless to discuss them with you. MAGA!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    As if we needed more parallels to Nixon.

    Jesus - I forgot about that. This guy is just trying to get impeached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    So you didn't read anything about this situation and are just guessing now? Fabulous. When you've bothered to learn the facts of the situation, then we can talk. But until you can at least understand this basic issues, it's useless to discuss them with you. MAGA!
    Ghost people told the wapo things that are secret but bad for Trump. impeach!

  17. #1437
    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    The deep throat now is likely bannon. I can't see how it could be anyone else.
    The evil half of my brain is saying Mike Pence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beazy View Post
    Im kind of torn on this subject after watching the briefing again during lunch.

    I have no reason to discard anything McMaster says. I refuse to believe this is the kind of man that would tow the line for a guy like Trump. I could be wrong, but until proven otherwise, I feel like I have no choice but to believe the guy. Just take a look at the mans credentials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._McMaster .
    What exactly do you believe? What he said yesterday, or him qualifying it today with "the premise"?

    And how do you square it being "wholly appropriate" when he didn't even know how sensitive the information was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump,

    Trump being an idiot
    Anti Trump people being crazy idiots


    Not mutually exclusive. Why don't you go celebrate the deaths of innocent Iraqis while calling others white supremacist some more
    Don't try and reason, all they know is they hate Trump because that's what Colbert said to do. Do we hate Comey this week or not? I can't remember since it changes so much. Random twitter guy said Trump is getting impeached so obviously that is now happening. It's like the walking dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Don't try and reason, all they know is they hate Trump because that's what Colbert said to do. Do we hate Comey this week or not? I can't remember since it changes so much. Random twitter guy said Trump is getting impeached so obviously that is now happening. It's like the walking dead.
    Comey is well respected now that Trump canned him. Before that, he was the poopy head that cost the election.

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