Special Counsel Appointed for Russia Investigation

[Skroe]

I'm ready for not one, but two scoops of justice.

[Zeek Daniels]

Cant wait till he finds nothing and the media has to find a new way to undermine trumps presidency.

[Edge-]

I'm ready for not one, but two scoops of justice.

Will everyone else only get one, then?

[Garnier Fructis]

I'm sure it'll be an excellent use of time, resources, and media coverage. Let's do this!

Politics is funny.

Even if all it does is render Trump a lame duck president, then it will be time, resources and coverage well spent. Because I consider Ted fucking Cruz to be more worthy of the Presidency.

[alexw]

It's gonna be wild. They're gonna find out that Trump and Russia conspired to.... wait, what exactly do we think they conspired to do? Specifically?

Well since we have the leader of the house on tape from before the election saying he thinks Putin is Trumps paymaster, before being silenced by Paul Ryan who swears everyone to secrecy...... I think the answer is lots. We are going to find lots.

[Noomz]

The investigation will cost millions of dollars and find nothing or very little if history shows anything.

I seem to remember a Kenneth Star, don't remember which president he was investigating but it took forever and found nothing and cost a ton of money.

You're concerned about cost considering all the things that have happened so far? You're not instead keen to either have Trump made guilty, or made free of guilt? Either way, someone wins on this and for someone it'll be worth it. Whichever way it goes, it's certainly a win for democracy and the American people.

[KrazyK923]

Cant wait till he finds nothing and the media has to find a new way to undermine trumps presidency.

He's doing a pretty fantastic job of that himself.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

The investigation will cost millions of dollars and find nothing or very little if history shows anything.

Even if it finds nothing it will be the democrats weaponized Benghazi style tool. Endlessly debated and investigated until over half the nation is brainwashed and believes its truth regardless. Classified info to Russia even if almost innocent will be "what about her emails" garbage. Republicans wrote a very effective rule book on creating conspiracy and now the democrats are pushing it almost perfectly. IF, again, it finds nothing.

I mean if I listened to half the shit I heard during the Obama admin zero babies would have been born because they were all ripped from mother, no guns in the nation would be left, and we would be a communist nation.

[Teebone]

Lets keep this civil

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/u...stigation.html

Hahaha... have you seen the raging in other threads this afternoon? An army of Ghandis couldn't keep this civil.

[Deleted]

Well. Eat sh-t.

[Spectral]

It's obviously not as simple as that and if you think that's the case then you haven't actually thought about it at all.

OK, I guess we'll see soon enough. I really haven't heard anyone lay out a coherent case that anything meaningful actually happened though. Even the "Comey cost her the election" narrative is more coherent than the evil Russians hacking the election.

Anything that gets Robbie Mook and the rest of the bumbling idiots in her campaign off the hook though, I guess.

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You're concerned about cost considering all the things that have happened so far? You're not instead keen to either have Trump made guilty, or made free of guilt? Either way, someone wins on this and for someone it'll be worth it. Whichever way it goes, it's certainly a win for democracy and the American people.

I do not believe that the results of this investigation will impact the opinions of greater than 5% of people regarding Trump's "guilt".

The idea of something being a "win for democracy" isn't even a cogent notion.

[Shadowferal]

Only one sticking point here; Is robert mueller under the protection of independent counsel law?

[Teebone]

Cant wait till he finds nothing and the media has to find a new way to undermine trumps presidency.

Have you even read just the man's Twitter feed? All the media has to do is report. Undermining Trump is like the easiest job on the planet. It's literally work that does itself.

[callipygoustp]

Solid, non-partisan, choice. Both sides like this guy last I checked.

[Skroe]

Trump wants "to get to the bottom of this".

you know.

Like OJ wanted to find the real killers.

[Spectral]

Just because you don't understand the arguments doesn't mean it's not coherent.

I wouldn't expect someone who's never taken a calculus course to understand Lebesgue integration but that doesn't mean it's not coherent.

Yeah, I realize that replying with condescending nothings is the standard MO. I'm pretty familiar at this point with the "trust me it's really serious guys" response.

[Deleted]

Only one sticking point here; Is robert mueller under the protection of independent counsel law?

Mueller won't be Comey-ed.

[Slybak]

Deputy AG Rosenstein's order:



Of particular interest is its expanded scope. B(ii) establishes the power to investigate crimes incidentally discovered during the investigation of B(i). That's... pretty big. It's how the Whitewater investigation ultimately transformed into the Lewinski investigation under Clinton.

But its B(iii) that ultimately lead to articles of impeachment against Clinton. 28 CFR 600.4 gives the special counsel the ability to investigate and prosecute criminal obstruction of their investigation, and reads:

The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

The two articles of impeachment that passed the House of Representatives in 1998 dealt with making false/misleading statements to a grand jury and obstruction of justice in events that had nothing to do with the original Whitewater investigation, but were connected to the Paula Jones investigation that grew out of it.

Considering that Trump is a walking-and-talking-and-tweeting nightmare for defense counsel, and has surrounded himself with unsavory people like Manafort and Flynn and New York mafioso and Russian mobsters, this isn't particularly good news in and of itself for the administration. Having a guy like Mueller running it makes it much worse, since his major expertise is in investigating financial crimes like money laundering.

[Teebone]

Well. Eat sh-t.

I have to admit, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Putin's situation room.

[Deleted]

Well, i hope the very best for america. While i think trump is going to escape the situation.