its because blizzard made raiding boring by homogenizing all classes and simplifying rotations and allowing shit like 28 alt clears a possibility
its because blizzard made raiding boring by homogenizing all classes and simplifying rotations and allowing shit like 28 alt clears a possibility
Who cares ?
Well, that didn't take you long now did it; ad hominem right away!
Worth a report, I reckon
Because I'm such a nice guy, I'll simplify the point so even you can understand it: While Legion has more content (as I said before) and is generally a better xpac, I feel there's too much focus on quantity, rather than quality. A 'smokescreen' of content, hot air, if you will.
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World quests suck. Also, what happened to this "Thousand" different world quest nonsense? I swear, it's the same exact quests every day for the most part.
Boomkin/Mage/Whatever in Fatsharkyes
"Basically we’re discussing to go casual. WoW now takes too much time and our goals are reached somehow. We’re not interested in spending so much time anymore and get nothing in return. Of course you may become a boosting guild, but that’s not something we’re interested in."
http://raiders-tavern.com/exorsus-di...casual-201702/
The top end guild i am in (raiding 5 days a week, 4,5 hours per night), is facing some problems too with the AP grind. We are at 3/10 mythic now, but have a hard time killing Krosus. People even have the new golden trait. Guess we need even more AP to kill him sigh. But hey no whining, you are a top end guild or not i guess...
Yep, which is why I call it hot air. Sure, it's content, technically. But is it worthwhile content? Is it enjoyable? Would it be fair to consider NH LFR, Normal, Heroic and Mythic 4 kinds of content?
I don't think so. World Quests are bland, boring and trivial with exception of AP. I'm sure barely anyone would do them if fun was the only motivating reason.
At the complete opposite side of the spectrum we have the mage tower bosses. Now that's content worth talking about. It's fun, moderately challenging and you know what's even more interesting? It's content people do without requiring that carrot, because it's interesting.
M+ is a great start. Now they have to make it interesting and fun. Rather than "which comp is best at zerging".
I dont feel the number of raids is that important, up to the point that raids just become to big. Like getting 3 small raids with 3-3-4 bosses for me atleast would feel about the same amout of content as getting one bigger raid with 10 bosses in a tier.
Regarding WQ's, yes they are content, just as dailies were content in other expansions. But i feel that in both quantity and quality WQ's deliver more than dailies in the past. Sure not all WQ's are designed well, but neither were dailies. In the end it just comes down to do you like WQ's (and dailies in the past), then Legion is better than any other expansion regarding daily quests. If you don't like WQ's (or dailies for that matter in the past) then it won't make much difference and you wont all of a sudden like them now and then just don't do them
And surely legion has some negatives, all expansions had in the past. But to me atleast compared to WoD it revitalised the game alot for me. In WoD i was raidlogging after like 2 months for the rest the expansion (bar the few content releases), now i'm not even close to that because theres atleast always something to do, let it be some WQ's (i don't really dislike them), some M+, some EN/TOV runs, and some of the content i havent even touched yet this expansion on quite alot of my chars.
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I'm not sure why you keep comparing WQs to dailies in your quotes of my replies; I never mentioned them.
But since you put so much emphasis on them, I'll reply accordingly. Yes, WQs and dailies are basically the same type of (lazy, ill designed) content. As I said in my previous reply, they are contenct, technically. I just don't consider it as such because they're bland, ill designed and nothing more than time-sinks.
LFR, Normal, Heroic and Mythic, technically 4 types of content.
Quantity matters much less, when you surrender this much quality.
There are many reasons for that. One might be accessibility; for many players, LFR is the only source of raid gear. Another might be that LFR is also done by heroic and mythic raiders once a week for AP, Runes and Legenaries. So one way or the other, LFR caters to everyone, while heroic to a small part of the player base and mythic to barely anyone.
It's safe to assume that people would do content as long as it's fun, right? Raid participation has diminished since the introduction of m+. NH saw a small increase, I assume due to the fact that it's the only source of Tier pieces. Nevertheless, still very low compared to m+ participation.
What if m+ would have a chance of awarding tier pieces? What doe you think would happen to raiding and why?
I know I wouldn't raid anymore. Fuck that logistic nightmare.
It's just a minor infraction. My third in all these 5 years. And you know what? Even if I get banned I can still use the forums and get my info. Also, you can see clearly how important my account is. Which is next to unimportant considering how many posts I've made over the years compared to you.
Also nice edit, bet you edit your replies a lot to hide your insults people as much as possible since you enjoy seeing them banned while trying to talk back to you. #Lmao
Maybe in a fantasy land where free time is unlimited sure.
Unfortunately we don't live in that kind of world. People quit all the time for lot's of reasons, a very common one being that top-end raiding demands a lot of hours per day out of your schedule.
I doubt raiding will ever not be fun for me, but I can guarantee you that eventually I just won't be able to keep devoting so much of my time to it if the Legion AP/legendary model continues into future expansion.
Everyone has their breaking point, and for a top end guild, it only takes a handful of people quitting all at the same time to basically be the death of the guild.
In my opinion a raid or a dungeon this is a piece of Content, tuned multiple different difficulties. Not a piece of content per diffculty.
You can't safely assume this, even if the content is shit, if theres a rewards at the end that ppl are interested in there will be ppl that do that content.
Lets you can get a super nice looking unique mount from herbing a million starlight roses, there will be some ppl that go and get that mount, altough herbing a million starlight roses can hardly be called entertaining content.
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