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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Lol. Dems hated Comey, now they love him.
    If "Dems" hated Comey, why was it Trump who fired him? What happened after the election, that made Trump go from Comey being fearless in going after Hillary, but fired a couple of months later? Dems hated him, yet despite blaming him for losing the election due to the Wiener investigation email reveal, Obama didn't fire him. If Dems hated him that much, yet didn't hate him enough to fire him, what caused Trump to do it?

    Remember, Clinton was the only other president to fire an FBI director and he did it after the director refused to resign, during an investigation into him embezzlement.

    You are not helping your self by claiming democrats didn't even fire him, even though they hated him. But, Trump fired him, even though he loved him just 2 months prior. So... what did Comey do, to get unprecedented ire from a US president, when those who hated him didn't do shit?

    Flynn, im sure thought the investigation was going to be dropped. He is still sticking to the fact that everything being done with Russia was disclosed. Manafort was also fired. So...
    Flynn lied to the Vice President of US, who than repeated what his advisor told him to American people. It took Trump 18 days to fire Flynn as a result... which he didn't actually do... unlike Comey, the guy who lied to American people about his talks with Russia, resigned... not fired... resigned...

    Yes, Manafort was fired, because he was exposed by the fake MSM for having connections to the none existent Russians. You might need to revisit this defense as well... it sort of points to media being right and Trump wrong to hire him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    The country needs to move on from this.
    You know how you do that? By letting an investigation happen and then honoring its conclusions. Not shrieking at the top of your lungs that it's all fake and needs to be shut down. That just makes you look guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Forrest Gump called that in. I saw it in that documentary.
    That does explain everything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Because the American people need to know about this? More information is always better than less information? Do you believe that it is not in the American People's interest to know that their leader is under investigation?
    Still, what is he under investigation for? And sure, but I think that they should wait until the investigation is complete before going off making assumptions. Nearly every post in here about Trump are nothing but assumptions. Its very annoying. Its pretty much conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    It won't take a couple of years.
    Watergate was 45 years ago.
    We're in the digital age. Won't need even a year to put Trump away...assuming he doesn't quit/resign/runs away to russia...
    At which point I'll be chuckling at everyone that claimed he'd be in office for 8yrs.
    No, it would need at least 2 years. Republicans will not be sending down an impeachment of Trump. Unless he reveals the conversations with Comey he claimed to possibly recorded. That might swing Republicans, because comparisons to Nixon will be their ruin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    You know how you do that? By letting an investigation happen and then honoring its conclusions. Not shrieking at the top of your lungs that it's all fake and needs to be shut down. That just makes you look guilty.
    Um. Maybe. I mean if I was being accused and I was completely innocent, I would prob be saying the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Still, what is he under investigation for? And sure, but I think that they should wait until the investigation is complete before going off making assumptions. Nearly every post in here about Trump are nothing but assumptions. Its very annoying. Its pretty much conspiracy theory.
    Why didn't you vote for Trump?

    While you answer the question I asked. Here is a fun fact... MSM being in cahoots in going after Trump, is a conspiracy theory and an assumption. The Dems hating Comey you mentioned, a generalization and an assumption. Just because you assume in defending Trump, it shouldn't be annoying that others are discussing possible outcomes of what is being reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    If "Dems" hated Comey, why was it Trump who fired him? What happened after the election, that made Trump go from Comey being fearless in going after Hillary, but fired a couple of months later? Dems hated him, yet despite blaming him for losing the election due to the Wiener investigation email reveal, Obama didn't fire him. If Dems hated him that much, yet didn't hate him enough to fire him, what caused Trump to do it?

    Remember, Clinton was the only other president to fire an FBI director and he did it after the director refused to resign, during an investigation into him embezzlement.

    You are not helping your self by claiming democrats didn't even fire him, even though they hated him. But, Trump fired him, even though he loved him just 2 months prior. So... what did Comey do, to get unprecedented ire from a US president, when those who hated him didn't do shit?



    Flynn lied to the Vice President of US, who than repeated what his advisor told him to American people. It took Trump 18 days to fire Flynn as a result... which he didn't actually do... unlike Comey, the guy who lied to American people about his talks with Russia, resigned... not fired... resigned...

    Yes, Manafort was fired, because he was exposed by the fake MSM for having connections to the none existent Russians. You might need to revisit this defense as well... it sort of points to media being right and Trump wrong to hire him...
    So are you trying to say that the Dems didnt fire him because they knew Comey would go after Trump about Russia? How about Trump fired Comey because he should have been fired but the Dems didnt have the balls to do it? Comey was shit, he should have been fired for talking about the link between Hilary and Weiner.

    Resigned, fine but he was going to be let go, still, he isnt there. It remains to be seen if Flynn is a lying bastard or not. Still Comey was terrible at his job, should have been fired before Trump was even elected.

    And I just revisted Manafort. Call Roger Stone on Netflix does a very good job describing candidate Trump and the things that happened during his race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Why didn't you vote for Trump?

    While you answer the question I asked. Here is a fun fact... MSM being in cahoots in going after Trump, is a conspiracy theory and an assumption. The Dems hating Comey you mentioned, a generalization and an assumption. Just because you assume in defending Trump, it shouldn't be annoying that others are discussing possible outcomes of what is being reported.
    Why does it matter why I didnt vote for him? It has nothing to do with him being POTUS now.

    Stories like this are annoying because its based on nothing. Even the stories state, we have found zero evidence of collusion. All Im saying is give it a fucking break, let them finish the investigation and then see what is there or not there. Otherwise, you might as well be watching Maurey. At least you get to have sealed documents open during the Maury Povich show. And you are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Um. Maybe. I mean if I was being accused and I was completely innocent, I would prob be saying the same thing.
    But your pride is what's on the line, and that's why you, and so many MANY others, are so concerned about Dumbass Dump being prosecuted. You have to face a world where they're going to look at you, point at you, and laugh at how you were SO obviously played by the worst (and by "worst" I mean "obvious") conman in Earth's history. Not to mention using your picture as an example for generations to come for how NOT to be as stupid as this person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Um. Maybe. I mean if I was being accused and I was completely innocent, I would prob be saying the same thing.
    If I was innocent, I'd let the investigation run its course, not try to stop it in every way humanly possible. That's what guilty people do, and is what Trump is doing. So he's either guilty or really really stupid... Well, wait. I guess regardless of whether or not he's guilty, he's just really really stupid, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Still, what is he under investigation for? And sure, but I think that they should wait until the investigation is complete before going off making assumptions. Nearly every post in here about Trump are nothing but assumptions. Its very annoying. Its pretty much conspiracy theory.
    Two things. Collusion with Russia in their attempt to influence the presidential election. Money laundering for organized crime and Russian oligarchs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Um. Maybe. I mean if I was being accused and I was completely innocent, I would prob be saying the same thing.
    No you wouldn't. If you are innocent and know you are innocent then you would welcome an investigation that would prove it. I know I would. The rates of wrongful conviction are exceedingly low, hence an investigation would clear my name and allow me to get on with my life. It would be an absolutely massive relief to be out from under all of that.

    That Trump isn't doing the same is strongly suggestive of him having something to hide that he really really doesn't want known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    So are you trying to say that the Dems didnt fire him because they knew Comey would go after Trump about Russia? How about Trump fired Comey because he should have been fired but the Dems didnt have the balls to do it? Comey was shit, he should have been fired for talking about the link between Hilary and Weiner.
    No, I am saying exactly what I have in print above. I shouldn't have to repeat my self, when you can read it again. If you think something I said assumed that Dems didn't fire him because of Russian investigations, please highlight it. Because I think that's absurd...

    Do you want me to link Trump praising him profusely? I'm sure you've seen it. So, what happened since Trump becoming president, where Comey went from Trump's review as heroic and fearless, to facing a firing without a request to resign that no other FBI director ever saw. Even Flynn got to resign...

    See it's not balls they lack, it's the obvious conflict of interest. If Democrats fired those investigating Benghazi or emails or anything else about another democrat, it would simply be not worth the ire of it seems like. Trump, as an intelligent man, knew that this controversy would and should happen for such unprecedented events. That doesn't mean he has balls... quite the opposite... especially when he knows people like you will regurgitate his 'evil MSM' bullshit, while complaining that this is a conspiracy theory...

    Resigned, fine but he was going to be let go, still, he isnt there. It remains to be seen if Flynn is a lying bastard or not. Still Comey was terrible at his job, should have been fired before Trump was even elected.
    Yes, Trump let Flynn resign... he didn't let Comey resign. Judging by the above, you see the problem. I will also repeat again, according to Trump's mouth, Comey was doing not only a great job, but a brave duty to American people. Trump did not agree with your assertion he should have been fired before the election. In fact, Trump said he was fired because the Russian investigation was going too far.

    And I just revisted Manafort. Call Roger Stone on Netflix does a very good job describing candidate Trump and the things that happened during his race.
    That's great... I'm guess we can salute the evil MSM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Two things. Collusion with Russia in their attempt to influence the presidential election. Money laundering for organized crime and Russian oligarchs.

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    No you wouldn't. If you are innocent and know you are innocent then you would welcome an investigation that would prove it. I know I would. The rates of wrongful conviction are exceedingly low, hence an investigation would clear my name and allow me to get on with my life. It would be an absolutely massive relief to be out from under all of that.

    That Trump isn't doing the same is strongly suggestive of him having something to hide that he really really doesn't want known.
    If I was being investigated for something that I did not do it would frustrate me, especially if a hostile media was using it in an attempt to get ratings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Why does it matter why I didnt vote for him? It has nothing to do with him being POTUS now.
    See, you are not stupid enough to answer that question. I bet you tried and realized what I meant... So... what happened between November 8th to November 10th that made you rethink everything you saw wrong with Trump, being an MSM conspiracy when it actually played out. What you see now, is the result of Trump beating out Hillary, in a race of the worst candidates in history. So, what happened in those few hours, to make Trump an ideal, instead of being the worst candidate to ever win an election? Why do you excuse or ignore the very actions that made him and Hillary the two worst candidates ever? What happened?

    That's why you won't answer... I voted Hillary because Trump has objectively worse credentials. Easy to answer... hard for you though...


    Stories like this are annoying because its based on nothing. Even the stories state, we have found zero evidence of collusion. All Im saying is give it a fucking break, let them finish the investigation and then see what is there or not there. Otherwise, you might as well be watching Maurey. At least you get to have sealed documents open during the Maury Povich show. And you are...
    What is the problem if they state information they receive, especially when they say no evidence was found? Why do you want to hide information, even when you agree it's not misinformation because they state there is no evidence? You are not making sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Um. Maybe. I mean if I was being accused and I was completely innocent, I would prob be saying the same thing.
    You maybe. And me maybe. But a politician knows how these things go -- as, frankly, would a businessman.

    It's akin to being audit by the IRS. No one runs around screaming witch hunt and how dare they. They provide all the documents and just wait it out knowing full well they are fine.

    I don't have any issues with Trump declaring his innocence. But actively working to hamper or shut down the investigation...well...that's not a sign of innocence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healing Rain View Post
    If I was being investigated for something that I did not do it would frustrate me, especially if a hostile media was using it in an attempt to get ratings.
    No, you would be frustrated at the accusations not the investigation. The accusations being leveled would be the bit you would be angry at as an innocent person. The investigation following those accusations would be entirely welcome because at last you could prove your innocence. To be under a permanent cloud of suspicion with no way out to clear your name and have that go on for years and years, even after your presidency has ended? *shudder* That would be the worst thing of all.

    So then why is Trump not welcoming this chance to prove his innocence and has attempted to kill it off? Why is he acting just as a guilty person would? Can you explain that me because your current reply made no sense whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healing Rain View Post
    If I was being investigated for something that I did not do it would frustrate me, especially if a hostile media was using it in an attempt to get ratings.
    Incredible ratings. Huge, tremendous, the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    See, you are not stupid enough to answer that question. I bet you tried and realized what I meant... So... what happened between November 8th to November 10th that made you rethink everything you saw wrong with Trump, being an MSM conspiracy when it actually played out. What you see now, is the result of Trump beating out Hillary, in a race of the worst candidates in history. So, what happened in those few hours, to make Trump an ideal, instead of being the worst candidate to ever win an election? Why do you excuse or ignore the very actions that made him and Hillary the two worst candidates ever? What happened?

    That's why you won't answer... I voted Hillary because Trump has objectively worse credentials. Easy to answer... hard for you though...




    What is the problem if they state information they receive, especially when they say no evidence was found? Why do you want to hide information, even when you agree it's not misinformation because they state there is no evidence? You are not making sense...
    Lol. No, I didnt vote for Hillary. Good try. The reasons that I did not vote for Trump had nothing to do with me thinking that he was working in collusion with Russia. Nice try though...

    They story should just be, no evidence is found but it doesnt, it goes into stupid conspiracy theory BS. If you like stuff like tabloid headlining stories like that, then fine, but no, you are the one that isnt making sense if you cant wait for the actual investigation to close and whatever finding are presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    You maybe. And me maybe. But a politician knows how these things go -- as, frankly, would a businessman.

    It's akin to being audit by the IRS. No one runs around screaming witch hunt and how dare they. They provide all the documents and just wait it out knowing full well they are fine.

    I don't have any issues with Trump declaring his innocence. But actively working to hamper or shut down the investigation...well...that's not a sign of innocence.
    Haha, wtf. You know that Comey is on record saying that Trump never tried to obstruct the investigation right? Fucking idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    But your pride is what's on the line, and that's why you, and so many MANY others, are so concerned about Dumbass Dump being prosecuted. You have to face a world where they're going to look at you, point at you, and laugh at how you were SO obviously played by the worst (and by "worst" I mean "obvious") conman in Earth's history. Not to mention using your picture as an example for generations to come for how NOT to be as stupid as this person.
    I honestly dont care if hes found guilty of whatever they are investigating. Still, we have no idea. Obviously, youre just jumping in and assuming things. So Ill help you. My point is that the media is just working on the feelings of Trump haters doing nothing but Russia, Russia, Russia stories. Im tired of them, we need to focus on other things and let the investigation play itself out.

    I bet you feel kind of dumb now, but its ok. Im sure youll find some nonsense Russia story to make you feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Haha, wtf. You know that Comey is on record saying that Trump never tried to obstruct the investigation right? Fucking idiot.
    I must have missed that one between all the stories about Comey's memo saying that Trump directly asked him to shut down the investigation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trifle View Post
    I must have missed that one between all the stories about Comey's memo saying that Trump directly asked him to shut down the investigation...
    You missed it because it never happened. He originally gave a vague answer but then clarified he couldn't answer as it might reveal classified information. It's just Trumpkin spin.

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