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    How Is VR Doing?

    Virtual reality headsets and games were the trend last holiday season. A fiscal quarter later how is the market holding up?

    Is there a lot of support for headsets? VR games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    Virtual reality headsets and games were the trend last holiday season. A fiscal quarter later how is the market holding up?

    Is there a lot of support for headsets? VR games?
    The PSVR headset is the strongest selling of the 3 main headsets, HTC Vive is doing decent and Oculus Rift is doing shit.

    Edit: Can't seem to find the dam report link I read awhile ago lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    The PSVR headset is the strongest selling of the 3 main headsets, HTC Vive is doing decent and Oculus Rift is doing shit.

    Edit: Can't seem to find the dam report link I read awhile ago lol.
    I think all of them are doing shit relatively, sure the PS4 thing may be doing relatively well compared to others but that's a low bar. Their isn't a killing game on VR, a game which creates a major hype and that gets people excited.

    http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/26/14...-than-expected

    This is something you may be looking for

    Just look at the announcements this and next year to see if VR has any future. If people aren't buying the software you will see less exclusives and less focus on VR (in general) just like how it went with 3D televisions.

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    Support for VR?

    Well there is RE7...

    And 500 tech demos.

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    VR won't be worth it for another 5+ years, between hardware and software tech improvements. There's some kinda neat shit out now, but nothing terribly compelling and it doesn't look to be changing any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Support for VR?

    Well there is RE7...

    And 500 tech demos.
    RE7
    Rock Band VR
    Robo Recall
    Serious Sam VR
    Chronos
    Eve Valkyre
    Project Cars
    Elite Dangerous
    Minecraft VR
    Rec Room
    The Climb
    The Unspoken
    Arizona Sunshine
    Onward

    And the list goes on.

    VR does well for what it is. It's a niche product with a high entrance price. It's steadily growing and more and more devs are looking into developing their stuff with VR in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    The PSVR headset is the strongest selling of the 3 main headsets, HTC Vive is doing decent and Oculus Rift is doing shit.

    Edit: Can't seem to find the dam report link I read awhile ago lol.

    Of course you can't find the link since there is no report disclosing Vive and Rift sales. It's all just speculation based on software sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    This is something you may be looking for
    It was ty.

    But ya if u had to pick a VR headset for gaming I would go with PSVR, But overall the VR market isn't doing all that great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karon View Post
    Of course you can't find the link since there is no report disclosing Vive and Rift sales. It's all just speculation based on software sales.
    Right under my original post http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/26/14...-than-expected

    Ya the numbers may not be 100%, But it still shows PSVR is doing much better but overall VR is doing poor.

    Two of the problems with VR right now is it cost too fucken much and it lacks killer apps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    It was ty.

    But ya if u had to pick a VR headset for gaming I would go with PSVR, But overall the VR market isn't doing all that great.

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    Right under my original post http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/26/14...-than-expected

    Ya the numbers may not be 100%, But it still shows PSVR is doing much better but overall VR is doing poor.

    Two of the problems with VR right now is it cost too fucken much and it lacks killer apps.

    true. But it's not stagnating which is really good and the price is going down slowly. Now with LG making their own VR Headset the price may even drop further (the Rifts price was lowered by 200USD a few month ago)

    And Killer apps will have to come over time. Many of the Oculus funded games that are coming out this year will be extremely good but won't be seen as killer apps because those games won't get much attention outside of the VR community =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karon View Post
    true. But it's not stagnating which is really good and the price is going down slowly. Now with LG making their own VR Headset the price may even drop further (the Rifts price was lowered by 200USD a few month ago)

    And Killer apps will have to come over time. Many of the Oculus funded games that are coming out this year will be extremely good but won't be seen as killer apps because those games won't get much attention outside of the VR community =(
    That is true, I personally want a PSVR but there is only one game I want it for ATM (Since Rigs bombed).

    So I'm just waiting for something worth wild to hook me.
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    I've noticed people that bought in get really, really aggressive and angry at topics like this but right now "falling for the VR meme" is still a term because its still nothing more than another Kinect. It could theoretically be used for something really cool but the innovation is not there and therefore its not worth buying as more than a novelty that will spend more time gathering dust than being used. Right now that use is bad wii games with a monitor on your face, .hack it is not and it never will be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Karon View Post
    RE7
    Rock Band VR
    Robo Recall
    Serious Sam VR
    Chronos
    Eve Valkyre
    Project Cars
    Elite Dangerous
    Minecraft VR
    Rec Room
    The Climb
    The Unspoken
    Arizona Sunshine
    Onward
    So

    RE7 and tech demos.

    Good to know I got the list right the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    I've noticed people that bought in get really, really aggressive and angry at topics like this but right now
    Pretty much going to be Karon in a few posts after his advertising doesn't work they way he thinks it will.

    VR is pretty much a joke atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    So

    RE7 and tech demos.
    I feel the same way in regards to games for VR, but do you really want to deal with wearing that headset for multiple hours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomservo View Post
    I feel the same way in regards to games for VR, but do you really want to deal with wearing that headset for multiple hours?
    I wouldn't play games in VR period, I have played with all of the major headsets and they all provide a complete garbage display of games compared to TVs and monitors so you might be asking the wrong person.

    It's just even more funny to me that of all the "games" released on VR only a single one provides a meaningful experience(RE7, and it looks like shit in VR compared to outside of VR).

    It's funny when someone tries really hard to defend their investment in VR when every sane person sees it for what it is. A shit gimmick with lots of tech demos and shovel ware being pushed on it. VR will be as dead as the kinect soon enough, maybe when it reappears in 20 years again it will actually be good the 3rd time's the charm right?

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    VR will be a shit meme as long as we rely on motion tracking and an HMD. When we can just plug into the Matrix it will be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    VR won't be worth it for another 5+ years, between hardware and software tech improvements. There's some kinda neat shit out now, but nothing terribly compelling and it doesn't look to be changing any time soon.
    And five years most likely is quite optimistic. The technology, with different hardware and at different prices, mgiht have more mid-term potential in a business environment - think surgery or work in a contaminated or high-risk environment - than in entertainment.

    Might as well become the next 3DTV thing and die out without as much as a whimper. For me personally, don't bother me until a holodeck is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    So

    RE7 and tech demos.

    Good to know I got the list right the first time.

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    Pretty much going to be Karon in a few posts after his advertising doesn't work they way he thinks it will.

    VR is pretty much a joke atm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    I wouldn't play games in VR period, I have played with all of the major headsets and they all provide a complete garbage display of games compared to TVs and monitors so you might be asking the wrong person.

    It's just even more funny to me that of all the "games" released on VR only a single one provides a meaningful experience(RE7, and it looks like shit in VR compared to outside of VR).

    It's funny when someone tries really hard to defend their investment in VR when every sane person sees it for what it is. A shit gimmick with lots of tech demos and shovel ware being pushed on it. VR will be as dead as the kinect soon enough, maybe when it reappears in 20 years again it will actually be good the 3rd time's the charm right?

    less kool aid please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    I've noticed people that bought in get really, really aggressive and angry at topics like this but right now "falling for the VR meme" is still a term because its still nothing more than another Kinect. It could theoretically be used for something really cool but the innovation is not there and therefore its not worth buying as more than a novelty that will spend more time gathering dust than being used. Right now that use is bad wii games with a monitor on your face, .hack it is not and it never will be.

    XD Every once in a while i rewatch that video. The intro alone kills me everytime HAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karon View Post
    less kool aid please.
    You realize when this is the only thing you can come up with to refute someones argument then you have lost right? Not offend do I agree with Tech but what he said is correct.

    VR as it stands is a high priced gimmick. The cheapest way in (besides Smartphone Headsets) is PSVR and its also not doing so hot. The PS4 has a install base of around 55 million users and yet PSVR has barely sold over 1 million units.

    On top of the system+headset costing a lot the games are not cheap ether and like Tech said a FUCK TON of games on VR is nothing but tech demo's. The PSVR has some solid VR experiences but the only thing standing out above all is RE7.

    Really sucks to because RIGS looked like it would be fun as hell, Sadly that game has bombed and its development studio was shutdown.

    Funny enough Porn is pushing VR harder then anything, So when that catches on mainstream everything else will fallow. History repeating itself all over again when it comes to tech lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    You realize when this is the only thing you can come up with to refute someones argument then you have lost right? Not offend do I agree with Tech but what he said is correct.

    VR as it stands is a high priced gimmick. The cheapest way in (besides Smartphone Headsets) is PSVR and its also not doing so hot. The PS4 has a install base of around 55 million users and yet PSVR has barely sold over 1 million units.

    On top of the system+headset costing a lot the games are not cheap ether and like Tech said a FUCK TON of games on VR is nothing but tech demo's. The PSVR has some solid VR experiences but the only thing standing out above all is RE7.

    Really sucks to because RIGS looked like it would be fun as hell, Sadly that game has bombed and its development studio was shutdown.

    Funny enough Porn is pushing VR harder then anything, So when that catches on mainstream everything else will fallow. History repeating itself all over again when it comes to tech lol.
    The moment he disregarded AAA title games as Tech demos he lost any and all credibility and stopped any reason to discuss anything with him.

    Also trying to sell personal delusions as facts tent to disencourage people to try and uphold a meaningful conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickyz View Post
    XD Every once in a while i rewatch that video. The intro alone kills me everytime HAHA
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