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    FBI was always political - The FBI’s Ugly History Led to Donald Trump

    https://warisboring.com/the-fbis-dar...-donald-trump/

    Fairly long read, TL;DR - author advocates being wary of "FBI protecting us" given their chequered history, and instead assume that FBI is there to protect status quo - whatever it is at the moment, including possibly protecting Donald Trump.

    U.S. domestic counter-intelligence and foreign espionage are supposed to be divided between the FBI at home and the CIA abroad. In practice, however, the lines between threats foreign and domestic are often difficult to discern, and allegations that Russian intelligence collaborated with Pres. Donald Trump’s campaign to illegally influence the 2016 presidential election pose one such challenge.

    Absent such allegations, Trump’s termination of FBI Director James Comey would be normal political maneuvering. Now it has tremendous national security implications. Likewise, the normal domestic political divisions over supporting or opposing the president’s actions hinge also on matters of foreign and military policy, with liberal critics of Trump claiming “treason” and calling Russia’s meddling “an act of war.”

    There are rarely positive outcomes from political struggles aligned with opposing sides in international conflicts, but aside from the immediate scandal around Comey’s firing, we must step back and see how the FBI’s history as a national security agency targeting substantial portions of the American public got us here today.

    In this context Comey’s sacking is less a shocking break with tradition and more its latest, and unavoidable, manifestation.

    Men awaiting deportation hearings on Ellis Island in 1920. Photo via Wikimedia

    Red Scare

    The FBI saw its transition from a small team of investigators in Washington, D.C. to a nation-wide network of federal police at the moment where radical politics posed probably its most legitimate threat to public safety in the country’s history—the so-called Red Scare in 1919.

    The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia in November 1917, Germany’s Spartacist uprising in January 1919, the communist revolutions in Hungary and Slovakia in 1918, a wave of grassroots factory takeovers in Italy and the launch of the Irish War of Independence in January 1919 all seemed to signal a long-awaited moment of global revolution.

    German and Russian revolutionary thinkers had extensive influence with U.S. leftists, and the social conflicts fueling these crises had also sent waves of immigrants from Germany, Russia, Italy and Ireland to the United States. They brought these same ideas to bear in their new country.

    In February 1919, workers in Seattle organized a general strike that shut down the city’s industries for nearly a week. The workers organized a Soviet-style “General Strike Committee,” demonstrating that communist tactics from Europe could be translated into U.S. industry. This preceded nationwide strikes in the crucial steel and coal industries, as well as violent clashes during May Day demonstrations that same year, killing workers in New York, Cleveland and elsewhere.

    So-called race riots—similar Russian anti-Jewish “riots” of that era are now called pogroms—also killed many more in at least three dozen cities.

    Amidst all of this a small group of Italian-American anarchists began a nationwide mail bomb campaign targeting top U.S. political and business officials. One of these targets was U.S. Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer, who responded by securing a major expansion of the Bureau of Investigation—then called the “BOI”—and identifying key political targets with the help of a 24-year old library clerk named J. Edgar Hoover.

    Hoover brought his librarian skills to bear by cross-referencing intelligence reports about various radical and left-wing leaders, facilitating the “Palmer Raids” which helped crush the uprising in those years.

    Hoover, of course, went on the take over the BOI and saw its rebranding as the FBI in 1935. In order to minimize comparisons to the Nazi and Soviet secret police forces of those eras, the FBI spent a great deal of time and energy promoting its pursuit of high-profile outlaws and bank robbers such as Charles “Pretty Boy” Floyd, John Dillinger and George “Machine Gun” Kelly.

    To this day, public perception of the FBI has much more to do with snatching bank robbers than with its political efforts.
    The Delaware County Courthouse in Media, Pennsylvania. Photo via Wikimedia

    Pacifist commandos vs. FBI dirty tricks

    To the extent that this perception has shifted over the years, the credit should go to the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI. The Commission was a small band of politically-motivated burglars during the early 1970s whose one major action could be considered perhaps the most successful military-style operation ever undertaken by a group of pacifists.

    The eight activists were recruited primarily by Bill Davidon, a mathematics professor at Haverford College in Philadelphia. Davidon drew from the ranks of pacifists engaged in breaking and entering draft board offices and burning the records used to conscript soldiers for the Vietnam War. This strategy took advantage of existing illegal activities among the conspirators to prevent security breaches in the Commission’s operation.

    The eight conspirators identified a small FBI “resident agency” office in the Philadelphia suburb of Media, Pennsylvania, and surveilled it for months. They studied the security procedures at the office, and knew that at night only the building’s manager and a guard at a neighboring courthouse would be keeping watch. One member trained in locksmithing, and one of their female members acted as a Swarthmore College student to interview the agent in charge about “opportunities for women at the FBI” while getting a look at the office’s inside layout.

    They chose the night of the Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier “fight of the century”—May 8, 1971—to strike, when the guard and manager were likely to be paying more attention to the bout than their regular duties. The lock-picker of the group could even hear the fight on the manager’s T.V. directly below him when he broke into the office.

    The files they secured exposed widespread illegal activity by the FBI, prompting further investigation by journalists and ultimately the historic U.S. Senate’s Church Committee to expose the full scope of COINTELPRO. The name was federalese for “Counter Intelligence Program” and began in 1956 as an effort against the Communist Party USA, which was then under the control of the Soviet Union.

    By the late 1960s, however, the Communist Party had become marginal on much of the American left, and revolutionary groups were only a small fraction of the “threat” opposed by the FBI. The bureau used both illegal and legal means to disrupt the mainstream of the anti-war, women’s liberation and civil rights movements. Federal agents infiltrated peace organizations, surveilled feminist “consciousness raising” groups—that amounted to a form of grassroots group therapy in many instances—and notoriously tried to get Martin Luther King, Jr. to commit suicide.

    The files captured by the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI indicated that more than three-quarters of the actual law enforcement work in this small office in a quiet suburb was spent on political policing. The targets of this work further indicate that the FBI’s definition of “national security” extended to anything that might challenge the powers that be—whether that be in the halls of power or in the bedroom.

    Much has been written about how the promise of the 1960s’ social movements collapsed into the “Me Generation” of the 1970s and 1980s, but too few observers have acknowledged the truth—the FBI led an armed, clandestine campaign to destroy these movements and disrupt their leadership. The continued problems of race, gender, military aggression and economic injustice are testaments to the success of these efforts.
    Contras in Nicaragua, 1987. Photo via Wikimedia

    War on Drugs

    As the FBI successfully suppressed social movements for change in the late 1960s and early 1970s, the focus of its security efforts shifted to the War on Drugs. Crack cocaine in particular served as the nexus between domestic law enforcement and global national security interests in that much of this cocaine was brought into the country by Central American nationals using their trafficking income to fund U.S.-backed right-wing paramilitaries in Nicaragua and other countries.

    In 1986, one such plot involved Honduran Gen. Jose Bueso Rosa, a CIA collaborator and supporter of the Nicaraguan Contras, based in Honduras. Rosa plotted with other officers to kill Honduran Pres. Roberto Suazo Córdoba and launch a coup, financing the plot with $40 million earned from shipping cocaine to the United States in the midst of the crack epidemic.

    The FBI intercepted this shipment and captured Rosa in Chile. In an extraordinary series of private messages, U.S. Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North schemed to win the FBI over to a plan to turn Bueso loose after a brief stint in a minimum security prison in Florida.

    “Our major concern… is that when Bueso finds out what is really happening to him, he will break his longstanding silence about the Nic Resistance and other sensitive operations,” North wrote.

    Some days later North laid out his plan: “Justice/FBI will see to it that (the director of the Bureau of Prisons) changes the sentence from Tallahassee to Eglin (the minimum security prison)… and delay his surrender date.”

    This assistance from the FBI and associated federal law enforcement agencies meant that Bueso served only five years in that relatively comfortable setting while at least one conspirator under his direction served more than 30 years in much harsher conditions. This was just one of many documented instances of FBI collusion with CIA and international drug traffickers connecting the devastation of U.S. cities with the suffering of Central America.
    Fire spreading through the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas on April 19, 1993. FBI photo
    Waco siege

    Still, FBI’s political activities waned in these years along with the fortunes of progressives at large. This shifted in an unexpected way in the early 1990s when the primary threats to the status quo seemed to come not from the left, but from elements of the right and apolitical groups that sought to put distance between themselves and mainstream U.S. society. The FBI and its law enforcement allies needed enemies to justify their budgets and powers, and these communities served as that justification.

    The most notorious of these was the federal siege of the Branch Davidian compound in 1993. A small religious cult tracing its roots back to the 1930s, the Branch Davidians eventually settled in a rural area outside of Waco, Texas. The group had no real politics beyond believing that the apocalypse was imminent, but this hardly distinguished them from many other Texas churches.

    The Branch Davidians made a significant portion of their income selling guns and accessories at gun shows around the state. The Davidians’ leader—David Koresh—decided in 1991 to invest in building and stockpiling AR-15 semi-automatic rifles to sell at a profit if federal assault rifle regulations went into effect. The guns could also come in handy if Armageddon did in fact come to pass—a win-win situation for the group.

    Federal law enforcement caught wind of the large purchases and assumed that the unconventional group was planning something criminal, namely the illegal and unregistered conversion of the rifles into automatic weapons. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms attempted to raid the group’s compound on Feb. 28, 1993, botching the job in an attempt to make a media splash before the ATF’s congressional budget hearings the following week. The ATF even officially called the operation “Showtime.”

    The raid, of course, made a splash by leading to the deaths of four agents and six Branch Davidians—each side claiming justifiable homicide and self-defense. The FBI took over during the standoff, and for 51 days sought to negotiate with the Branch Davidians while also using psychological warfare techniques such as sleep disruption to try and drive the group out.

    On April 19, 1993, the FBI began its final assault on the compound, using combat engineering vehicles—CEVs, modified M-60A1 tanks with their cannons replaced with battering rams—to punch holes into the building and inject CS gas. After sustaining fire from Davidians in the compound, Bradley infantry fighting vehicles capable of firing CS ferret rounds replaced the CEVs.

    The ferrets contained methylene chloride, which is combustible in a high concentration. Such a concentration was definitely reached that morning, with Bradleys firing more than 375 ferret rounds and a total of 77 pounds of CS into the building. The FBI also used pyrotechnic tear gas rounds, thus firing explosives into a highly flammable building, and a fire began around six hours after the gassing started

    The FBI claims the Davidians themselves started the fire in an act of self-immolation. Advocates for the Davidians claim that the federal assault sparked the blaze, and that infrared reconnaissance footage shows FBI agents firing on possible escape routes, pinning people in the building. Seventy-six people were killed in the final conflagration, including 20 children.

    Many in the gun rights and other libertarian movements saw this as a message from the federal government about efforts to live apart from conventional American society. The disastrous outcome of the siege further led to a backlash that culminated in the Oklahoma City Bombing in 1995 as well as an escalated FBI campaign against the militia movement and other right-wing extremists throughout the 1990s.

    FBI SWAT team. FBI photo

    Faking the war on terror

    This all changed in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, when most of the post-COINTELPRO reforms made to limit the FBI’s potential for abuse were stripped away in the Patriot Act. Since then, the FBI claims to have focused its energy on rooting out the threat of jihadist terror at home.

    In reality, the bureau’s efforts have been far less noble. The FBI has earned high-profile headlines about its success at breaking up a variety of fearsome plots, but these threats are often concocted by FBI agents themselves to snare unwitting “terrorists” that were minding their own business or who would better be classified as internet trolls.

    “In more than a decade since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the FBI, targeting American-Muslim communities, has frequently helped to create ersatz terrorist plots, supplying the plan, the means and even the motivation—and then encouraging the target to follow through,” Human Rights Watch reported in July 2014. “In several cases we documented, those targeted for these ‘investigations’ suffered from mental illness or were desperately poor, or sometimes both.”

    This obviously plays no role in reducing the threat of terrorism, but their actual value seems to be at least two-fold.

    First, they support a public perception that the FBI is doing something to prevent terrorism, thus creating a political base for funding requests and expanded powers. Second, they fuel a culture of fear among many Americans that believe that widespread terrorist plotting is all around them, thus creating an even stronger demand for expanded law enforcement powers and U.S. military adventurism abroad.

    James Comey in 2016. FBI photo

    The FBI’s heritage

    It is here that we can see how the FBI’s history of political policing leads directly to the current Comey firing scandal.

    After founding a political police agency in the wake of the Red Scare in 1919 and 1920, the FBI went after the most progressive and most effective organizers in the labor and civil rights movements. Union membership peaked in 1954—the same time as Sen. Joe McCarthy’s peak of influence. McCarthy’s campaign was led by J. Edgar Hoover and the senator’s chief counsel Roy Cohn—a major figure of the hard right, a protege of Hoover’s and Trump’s political mentor.

    While the slow decline of the U.S. industrial middle class thus set in, the FBI targeted progressive movements that were generating creative solutions to a variety of social problems. The bureau disrupted these movements, undermined their most effective organizations and discredited, terrorized or killed the most effective leaders. This de-politicized communities at the forefront of America’s 1960s upheaval, while at the same time the drug war legally disenfranchised millions of citizens. The collaboration of federal agencies including the FBI with major, politically connected drug dealers further accelerated the devastation of these communities.

    Beginning in 2015, Trump emerged—speaking to the abandoned industrial class, taking advantage of the lack of solutions from traditional politicians and suppressed political engagement, decrying crime-ridden cities and promising to protect us all from terror plots which federal agencies have played a role in hyping up.

    Reports during the 2016 campaign suggested that a substantial number of FBI agents appreciated all of this about Trump, and James Comey had trouble navigating the political winds whipping him from all directions.The result was a back and forth self-contradiction that ultimately combined with the threats posed by the Russia scandal to force his ouster.

    And as for that scandal, which definition of “national security” will the FBI stick with? The one that sees the interference of an authoritarian strongman and oligarchs in America’s election process as a threat to constitutional order, or the one that sees these figures and Trump as the best possible protection against the communities that are coalescing again and studying history in a new way?

    If we are going to navigate these waters, we must remember that history—and challenge those who claim to protect us.
    Last edited by Shalcker; 2017-05-24 at 07:20 PM.

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    Is it because the FBI currently investigates against trump. or why are some right wing media outlets suddenly creating walls of text condeming them?

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    All of the examples in the text are at least 30+ years old. I can't recall the FBI being overtly political in my lifetime. Also the last part about FBI agents supporting Trump is top kek, of course there will be individuals in the FBI that lean right as much as agents that lean left. The part about Comey having to "navigate waters" is conjecture at best, and honestly I think it's bullshit based on organizational behavior. If anything subordinates tend to identify with the traits, characteristics and ideologies of those in high-level positions, and no one was as high-level as Comey. Also the article seems to imply that Comey is left-leaning when we have no evidence of that being the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    All of the examples in the text are at least 30+ years old.
    Reminds me of all the 30+ year old arguments Dumpsters use to say the Democrats are the "party of racism". Yeah, it was... 30 years ago, until the Republicans pulled a stupid and started adopting the Southern Strategy and eventually led to the takeover of the monstrously despicable like Dumbass Donnie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by From Article
    ...with liberal critics of Trump claiming “treason” and calling Russia’s meddling “an act of war.”
    Yeah. That was actually Dick Cheney. Not just "liberal critics".
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    This is what is known as the "poisoning the well" fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    All of the examples in the text are at least 30+ years old. I can't recall the FBI being overtly political in my lifetime. Also the last part about FBI agents supporting Trump is top kek, of course there will be individuals in the FBI that lean right as much as agents that lean left. The part about Comey having to "navigate waters" is conjecture at best, and honestly I think it's bullshit based on organizational behavior. If anything subordinates tend to identify with the traits, characteristics and ideologies of those in high-level positions, and no one was as high-level as Comey. Also the article seems to imply that Comey is left-leaning when we have no evidence of that being the case.
    Actually mentioned "FBI plots to supply all means, including motivation, for terrorists then arrest them" are quite a bit more recent then 30+ years...

    And i distinctly remember that FBI Branch Davidian compound attack in news too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Actually mentioned "FBI plots to supply all means, including motivation, for terrorists then arrest them" are quite a bit more recent then 30+ years...
    Yes, that's called a "sting" operation, a routine part of law enforcement efforts in general.

    How terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    Did you check the author? He has written quite a few opinion pieces that condemn Trump and called out all the extremist neo-nazi and white power groups in the USA offering their support to Trump.

    Don't just call everything 'right wing'.

    The FBI has always been questionable.

    Some of his stuff:
    Well said.

    The FBI and the intelligence community in general has always been questionable at best, downright shady and anti citizen at the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Yes, that's called a "sting" operation, a routine part of law enforcement efforts in general.

    How terrifying.
    Is it still "sting" if you find mentally disturbed guy, give him detailed instructions on how to make bombs, provide him with material to make bombs, promise monetary compensation, encourage him to continue when he has doubts, and then when he actually assembles it as instructed arrest him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Yes, that's called a "sting" operation, a routine part of law enforcement efforts in general.

    How terrifying.
    It goes a little beyond the pale of a sting operation and crosses into the manufactured/managed crisis realm at that point. The quoted bit about providing motivation is something they shouldn't be engaging in at all, just based on their supposed function but also based on the possibility of losing control of the 'motivated' and essentially creating a situation where none would have existed otherwise.

    Then again there are tools who think Operation Fast and Furious was a good idea too, so go figure here.
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    Correction: Trump's ugly history led to Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Is it still "sting" if you find mentally disturbed guy, give him detailed instructions on how to make bombs, provide him with material to make bombs, promise monetary compensation, encourage him to continue when he has doubts, and then when he actually assembles it as instructed arrest him?
    There are definitely ethical and legal questions for when law enforcement go too far in a sting, but I'd be curious as to if there are any specific instances you're thinking of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damajin View Post
    It goes a little beyond the pale of a sting operation and crosses into the manufactured/managed crisis realm at that point. The quoted bit about providing motivation is something they shouldn't be engaging in at all, just based on their supposed function but also based on the possibility of losing control of the 'motivated' and essentially creating a situation where none would have existed otherwise.

    Then again there are tools who think Operation Fast and Furious was a good idea too, so go figure here.
    Yep, Fast and Furious was a disaster. Sometimes that shit happens, and law enforcement need to learn from this mistakes so that they don't make them again.

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    If Skinner was the Director of the FBI instead of Comey, none of this would've happened.



    Or, wait... Was he a fictional character? I'm so confused by what's reality and what's reality TV in US politics right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    There are definitely ethical and legal questions for when law enforcement go too far in a sting, but I'd be curious as to if there are any specific instances you're thinking of.



    Yep, Fast and Furious was a disaster. Sometimes that shit happens, and law enforcement need to learn from this mistakes so that they don't make them again.
    Or they could just not engage in that kind of action at all. Law enforcement doesn't need to be empowering or cooperating with the people they're supposed to be going after, just so they can escalate their plans a little smoother. This has been a problem since they helped prop up the Mob during WW2 when they were for all intents on their deathbed.

    Surveillance and infiltration I'm fine with but providing material, philosophical or logistic aid to these groups is too much and should never be in consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damajin View Post
    Or they could just not engage in that kind of action at all. Law enforcement doesn't need to be empowering or cooperating with the people they're supposed to be going after, just so they can escalate their plans a little smoother. This has been a problem since they helped prop up the Mob during WW2 when they were for all intents on their deathbed.
    No, stings are still a crucial part of law enforcement operations to prevent crime before it starts. Ending drug deals, paid hits, robbery rings, and more before they strike is a huge public benefit.

    Unless you'd rather police be purely reactive after crimes occur for some reason...

    Quote Originally Posted by Damajin View Post
    Surveillance and infiltration I'm fine with but providing material, philosophical or logistic aid to these groups is too much and should never be in consideration.
    It depends on the operation. Calculated risks are taken in order to ensure that they can do the most to end crime. If that means that they need to release a small amount of narcotics from their evidence lockers in order to ensure that they can get access to/nail a bigger supplier rather than just nabbing the low level distributors for lesser offenses, I call that a big win and well worth the risk.

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    Shalcker seems fucking desperate to defend dear leader Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Shalcker seems fucking desperate to defend dear leader Putin.
    What, American FBI is also Putin's fault now?

    Damn, i want his omnipotence... and his time travel machine too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    What, American FBI is also Putin's fault now?

    Damn, i want his omnipotence... and his time travel machine too!
    No. You are posting desperately to try to distract from the Trump-Russian probe by posting nothing but pure bullshit. Especially talking about an article from a website I haven't heard of, from an author I haven't heard of and posting about shit that is fucking 30 years old. Literally NOTHING in this article has anything to do with what is going on now. If you are saying that the FBI is political, then what about the other 16 intelligence agencies in the US and probably another half dozen or so around the world that say the same fucking thing? That RUSSIA attempted to influence the election and have tried to in many other elections.

    Again, you are trying very fucking hard to try to stop what is actually happening.

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    Personally, I believe we should trust in our government. Trust, but verify.

    Being paranoid of your government isn't going to make your life or the functions of your government improve.
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