‘The Germans are bad, very bad’: Trump pledges to ‘stop’ German car sales to US

[Cthulhu 2020]

Trump's foot-in-mouth disease displays itself again. Another day, another national embarrassment.

[Deja Thoris]

A lot of people are missing the bigger context here. This isn't just about cars.

Starting a pissing contest with the biggest economy in the EU just isn't good politics. America, with its inward looking raging stupidity is setting itself back massively on the world stage. Countries like China are emerging strongly and thats where the worlds economic growth is going to be and where peoples thoughts be when it comes to expanding if Murica keeps burning bridges.

Trump is doing a good job of eroding relationships that have been built over decades.

[Slant]

Well its a little to late for wants. We got 3 and 3/4 years roughly to go. Even if some how they get rid of his ass the VP is just as retarded.

At least he seems to be a normal kind of retarded. Trump needs a new definition in the dictionary to still fit the retarded label.

[Breccia]

Trump is doing a good job of eroding relationships that have been built over decades.

I promise, most of us have not missed that context. Canada and Mexico surely haven't.

[Slant]

A lot of people are missing the bigger context here. This isn't just about cars.

Starting a pissing contest with the biggest economy in the EU just isn't good politics. America, with its inward looking raging stupidity is setting itself back massively on the world stage. Countries like China are emerging strongly and thats where the worlds economic growth is going to be and where peoples thoughts be when it comes to expanding if Murica keeps burning bridges.

Trump is doing a good job of eroding relationships that have been built over decades.

Don't worry. Nothing will come of it. Volkswagen, BMW and Mercedes are busy with other things, like renewable energy cars. BMW just released the prototype for the new 8-series. It's a beast, I can tell you that much.

This is why we sell so many cars in the US:

[JohnBrown1917]

The whataboutisms is the "trade war". It hasn't happened. And it may not ever happen. We can speculate on all we want, until a trade war happens between the US and EU we don't know what would happen.
Right now, there is speak of an import tax of vehicles coming into the US. Of which 25% of the worldwide import vehicle sales is done by the US alone. The US is taken for granted. Now whether or not this import tax will include parts and assembled pieces I do not know.

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Socialism... shouldn't he give one those houses to someone who can't afford one? It's fine for you to give your money away. Just not his.

Bernie is a social democrat, not socialist.
And that is not how it works.

[Toppy]

What is with Trump having a raging hard-on to start a trade war? Jesus.

He thinks he's one of histories greatest business men, so he sees in trade a battle he can win.

Never forget he's a narcissist.

[Deja Thoris]

Don't worry. Nothing will come of it. Volkswagen, BMW and Mercedes are busy with other things, like renewable energy cars. BMW just released the prototype for the new 8-series. It's a beast, I can tell you that much.

This is why we sell so many cars in the US:

You missed the point. The point is that rhetoric like this erodes relationships and when that happens things don't get done. When those top politicians meet they should be thinking "how do we work together to a common goal", not "oh I have to deal with this mad blustering arsehole again".

Posting a picture of a bmw and singing its praises irrelevant.

[Slant]

You missed the point. The point is that rhetoric like this erodes relationships and when that happens things don't get done. When those top politicians meet they should be thinking "how do we work together to a common goal", not "oh I have to deal with this mad blustering arsehole again".

Posting a picture of a bmw and singing its praises irrelevant.

No, you are missing the point. Germany, the nation, will ignore these antics. Nothing will come of it. Trump knows this. The EU knows this. He cannot be this stupid. The US has a lot of leverage in the world because they know how to make friends and weld them into a unified front against whatever the current enemy is. Alienating Europe like that is losing the biggest ally the US has. That's stupid on a scale the US has never done before. It's as stupid as the move for independence was smart. It would undo literally 70 years of diplomatic works, nay more like a century. It would put the US right back to before WW1.

[Allybeboba]

A lot of people are missing the bigger context here. This isn't just about cars.

Starting a pissing contest with the biggest economy in the EU just isn't good politics. America, with its inward looking raging stupidity is setting itself back massively on the world stage. Countries like China are emerging strongly and thats where the worlds economic growth is going to be and where peoples thoughts be when it comes to expanding if Murica keeps burning bridges.

Trump is doing a good job of eroding relationships that have been built over decades.

Diplomacy is a two way street.

[Deja Thoris]

Diplomacy is a two way street.

Thanks for quoting me to add that riveting insight.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

It about time, we need to start working on making good automobiles again like the Jeep. God bless Donald Trump.

Or like BMW, whose largest plant is in South Carolina, which should surely be dear to your heart.

[Allybeboba]

Thanks for quoting me to add that riveting insight.

Your welcome. Have a happy day!

[Enthusiastic Steward]

No, you are missing the point. Germany, the nation, will ignore these antics. Nothing will come of it. Trump knows this. The EU knows this. He cannot be this stupid. The US has a lot of leverage in the world because they know how to make friends and weld them into a unified front against whatever the current enemy is. Alienating Europe like that is losing the biggest ally the US has. That's stupid on a scale the US has never done before. It's as stupid as the move for independence was smart. It would undo literally 70 years of diplomatic works, nay more like a century. It would put the US right back to before WW1.

Its odd to single out German auto makers. Domestic auto makers, who have parts manufacture plants all over Mexico, are going to feel just as much (if not more) of a bite as the 'foreign' auto makers who operate massive production plants in the US but may import some parts.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Diplomacy is a two way street.

NATO contributions aren't the only form of diplomacy either.

[Slant]

Its odd to single out German auto makers. Domestic auto makers, who have parts manufacture plants all over Mexico, are going to feel just as much (if not more) of a bite as the 'foreign' auto makers who operate massive production plants in the US but may import some parts.

It's odd to single out the auto market to begin with. I'd think the US auto market is still different enough from European auto markets that this type of hysteria is unwarranted. German car manufacturers in particular are not known for their "muscle" or large interior space, two of the main things that a typical American auto customer expects. Plenty of space and storage room and lots and lots of raw mechanical torque to compensate for the extra weight. European cars tend to be much smaller in comparison and sacrifice space for efficiency. I am sure European brands adapt their design for the US market, but as far as I can see, the basic underlying design for a BMW doesn't change all that much when the design moves to a US plant.

So no, this doesn't make any sense at all. The worst thing that keeps coming back into my mind is "Why are German cars sold so much that the US president feels the need to point it out at every occasion? It's not because we cheated, it must be a consumer decision." and that's what brings me to the main point: Perhaps instead of implementing punitive taxes, US companies need to jump over their shadow and cater to the market in the US. Instead of pretending to shape the market themselves.

I saw an ad in connection with the Indy 500... here it is:



First: What's so special about a special edition if there are 4 more special editions?
Second: Who the fuck needs a car like that? Farmers, yes. Big city hipsters? Not so much.

[Allybeboba]

It's odd to single out the auto market to begin with. I'd think the US auto market is still different enough from European auto markets that this type of hysteria is unwarranted. German car manufacturers in particular are not known for their "muscle" or large interior space, two of the main things that a typical American auto customer expects. Plenty of space and storage room and lots and lots of raw mechanical torque to compensate for the extra weight. European cars tend to be much smaller in comparison and sacrifice space for efficiency. I am sure European brands adapt their design for the US market, but as far as I can see, the basic underlying design for a BMW doesn't change all that much when the design moves to a US plant.

So no, this doesn't make any sense at all. The worst thing that keeps coming back into my mind is "Why are German cars sold so much that the US president feels the need to point it out at every occasion? It's not because we cheated, it must be a consumer decision." and that's what brings me to the main point: Perhaps instead of implementing punitive taxes, US companies need to jump over their shadow and cater to the market in the US. Instead of pretending to shape the market themselves.

I saw an ad in connection with the Indy 500... here it is:



First: What's so special about a special edition if there are 4 more special editions?
Second: Who the fuck needs a car like that? Farmers, yes. Big city hipsters? Not so much.

There is a reason a pickup truck has been the #1 selling vehicle in the US for over 30 years.

[Elegiac]

There is a reason a pickup truck has been the #1 selling vehicle in the US for over 30 years.

Conspicuous consumption.

Oh, sorry. Don't let me interrupt your rant about how it's demonstrative of American masculinity or what the fuck ever.

[zEmini]

Aren't some BMW's and Mercedes built in the US?

[Cthulhu 2020]

Aren't some BMW's and Mercedes built in the US?

I bet liberals work at those plants, so it's okay if they go out of business. They're not real Americans!