If an Underage Girl Pursued an Older Male?

[nanook12]

If an underage girl pursued an older male and she initiated sex with him and they both consented, enjoyed it, and she was not traumatized by the experience, then is it still wrong, is anyone really hurt, or is there even a victim at all? The same for an underage male pursuing an older female?

[Gamdwelf]

Underage people can't consent so the whole premise is bogus

[jackofwind]

Underage people can't consent so the whole premise is bogus

/thread.

nice b8 m8.

[Deleted]

I would say that particular example, no. However, as far as we know this is very rare, that a younger person below the age of consent is the primary person that wants to engage in such activities with a person, say +8 years older.

Which is typically the reasoning behind the age of consent.

[Selastan]

If an underage girl pursued an older male and she initiated sex with him and they both consented, enjoyed it, and she was not traumatized by the experience, then is it still wrong, is anyone really hurt, or is there even a victim at all? The same for an underage male pursuing an older female?

While not impossible, the whole situation is deemed illegal to help prevent people from abusing false consent. It's really easy that way, the only con is you don't sex a 14 year old. Best possible scenario, until we invent fail-proof lie detectors.

[nanook12]

Underage people can't consent so the whole premise is bogus

Can't consent according to whom? Are you telling me teenagers can consent to have sex with similar aged teenagers, but not with adults? Sounds like pretty shotty reasoning to me.

[Sunseeker]

Can't consent according to whom? Are you telling me teenagers can consent to have sex with similar aged teenagers, but not with adults? Sounds like pretty shotty reasoning to me.

According to the law which defines the age of consent.

[Deleted]

In this hypothetical case, nobody is hurt.

Having said that, the entire point of the difference between childhood and adulthood is the assumption that children arn't as capable of making the right choices as adults are.

Having said that, personally I am a fan of an age of consent of ~15 or so assuming the adult is under 21 and not in any other relationship with the child.

[Calfredd]

Can't consent according to whom? Are you telling me teenagers can consent to have sex with similar aged teenagers, but not with adults? Sounds like pretty shotty reasoning to me.

Is there something you want to tell us?

[Uoyredrum]

Is there something you want to tell us?

Exactly my thoughts...

[Gamdwelf]

Can't consent according to whom? Are you telling me teenagers can consent to have sex with similar aged teenagers, but not with adults? Sounds like pretty shotty reasoning to me.

Why do you think kids in highschool​have to sign waivers even to be in photos

[Roxinius]

Exactly my thoughts...

me thinks someones been diddling a 14 year old and is here for reassurance they didnt fuck up

[nanook12]

Is there something you want to tell us?

Um yeah if you want me to tell you that I am using hypothetical situations to critically think about the laws of society that we live in. That's pretty much it.

[Uoyredrum]

me thinks someones been diddling a 14 year old and is here for reassurance they didnt fuck up

Just waiting for him to delete the thread to cover it up.

Um yeah if you want me to tell you that I am hypothetical situations to critically think about the laws of society that we live in. That's pretty much it.

To be fair your wording doesn't really make it seem that way. It practically screams "I did this, need advice/reassurance".

[DrStiglit]

Yup. It's still wrong. Underage person isn't mature enough to think clearly about the situation. Too easy for an older person to manipulate the underage individual.

[nanook12]

me thinks someones been diddling a 14 year old and is here for reassurance they didnt fuck up

I wont play out scenarios in my until the girl is at least age 15. Can't arrest me for my thoughts as long as they son't become actions.

[Deleted]

Um yeah if you want me to tell you that I am hypothetical situations to critically think about the laws of society that we live in. That's pretty much it.

Well think the reverse as well. Why would the age of consent law be in place? The typical answer, is because we don't have faith in people under a certain age to take on the responsibilities and precaution necessary to make such an action be non-problematic in any way. As well as the notion that they can be quite easily manipulated or pressured into allowing the action to happen, and not being capable of admitting they didn't want to do so.

[Underverse]

Underage people can't consent so the whole premise is bogus

By law, not by logic, so this whole argument is bogus. The question is damage caused, not whether or not it's lawful.

[breadisfunny]

If an underage girl pursued an older male and she initiated sex with him and they both consented, enjoyed it, and she was not traumatized by the experience, then is it still wrong, is anyone really hurt, or is there even a victim at all? The same for an underage male pursuing an older female?

yes it is still statutory rape.

[Puupi]

If an underage girl pursued an older male and she initiated sex with him and they both consented, enjoyed it, and she was not traumatized by the experience, then is it still wrong, is anyone really hurt, or is there even a victim at all? The same for an underage male pursuing an older female?

Is this a legal or an ethical​ question?