Too large? I'm not so sure. There are very large power imbalances between mothers and babies, and these relations are cherished to the highest level. Why does the nature of a sexual relationship suddenly change everything? Mothers have great potential to abuse their babies, and some do. But we don't outlaw mothering.
I am really, really surprised at the sheer number of people who try to rationalize kid diddling ITT. Is this a NAMBLA board?
it would be wrong , hence UNDER AGE!!!!
op if you continue on this path you will experience the prison love, not the underaged girl one.
i advice you to stop whatever you are doing / planning to do.
war does not determine who is right, only who is left.
I'm not going to engage in what damage may or may not be caused by any given situation. If someone feels the law is wrong and has evidence to support their viewpoint that the law is wrong on many occasions, on a wide scale, over the general population, then they need to bring that forward. The OP's argument seems to be founded on they don't like the government, therefore they don't have to follow the law.
Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.
Just, be kind.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but the parallels with fathers who would say the same thing about a black man 'messing with their daughters' not too long ago are pretty overt.
I think it's generally safer to be vigilant against damage, instead of using prejudice to direct your actions under a broad range of circumstances. Damage is always bad, and you'll never be led astray by condemning it. Categories of actions are usually too broad to condemn.
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I agree with the process of changing laws that you state here.
The difference being the source of said arguments: Gay marriage wasn't legal due to religious dogma, and women not having the vote was due to sexist views of the past with not seeing them as equals intellectually or physically (also tied to religious dogma), ditto for the racist implications of the time.
Diddling kids isn't a matter of religious dogma, or some pent-up hatred of people who look different.
It's something considered morally not okay in the majority of the world.
"But why can't a 16 year old consent but a 17 year old can?!?!"
Because we have to draw a line in the sand at some point. That's how reasoning and laws and virtually everything else in the world works.
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If the minor has no other adult connections, then the potential for abuse increases (though is still very far from determinative). Fortunately, most minors have parents and relatives, as well as friends. And, in an open society where things like this are accepted, abuse is very unlikely to go undetected in these circumstances.
If minors are afforded more freedoms with whom they are able to associate, then they can also be more free to leave a relationship that they feel is abusive. And if they don't think it's abusive, then I'm not exactly sure why others should worry.
In some ways, our laws remove so much agency from minors that minors feel compelled to obey adults to a greater degree than they might otherwise, which opens up avenues for covert abuse. Except because those who are willing to break laws to satisfy their desires are generally unsavory types, you're actually compounding risk of abuse into something worse than it would be without the law.
The older male is an adult and should be mature enough to say no.
Actually, it's been acceptable in many societies throughout history, some of which are contemporary. Our views here are descended from relatively recent puritan-era religious mores. These views are not substantially different from our bigotry against women and sexual or ethnic minorities. It's become an ideological pariah. Something that everyone goes to when they want to string something up as raucously immoral.
But biology does not agree with us. Look at how we evolved. Look at how other apes act. Bonobos use sexual pleasure to calm their children. Are they scarred for life? No; it's a normal social interaction for them.