Paris's Notre Dame: Police responding to 'gunshots'

[Khaza-R]

Was thinking more of the ongoing civil war and all that but your right about that.

I doubt he cares about the civil war or the Syrian people.

He's probably some shitbag IS-sympathizer referring about how caliphate in Syria was stopped.

[Agnastyr]

Aggrophobic i asked for reliable source and you link BBC, are you trolling?

wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Crime_rate_statistics

Basically you have gangbangers doing hoodrat things in their gettos and pushing the numbers up for everyone.
Dont apply your fear of guns to normal people, wink wink

[JohnBrown1917]

Aggrophobic i asked for reliable source and you link BBC, are you trolling?

wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Crime_rate_statistics

Basically you have gangbangers doing hoodrat things in their gettos and pushing the numbers up for everyone.
Dont apply your fear of guns to normal people, wink wink

So are we also allowed to take away 'bad neighborhoods' when comparing stats/

[Agnastyr]

Actually the opposite, just take a look at the demographic of that "bad neighborhood" Remove the demographic = crime removed. Easy. No need to thank me for that revelation tho. But what you do need to do is not apply seemingly shit stats to everyone when most of the crap is done by specific type of people.

Like the current problem in Europe is a group of specific people, from those stats you can gather another group of people responsible for crime.

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While I will preface this with: I am glad that nobody was hurt seriously and I hope this guy being taken alive leads to some other people being arrested,

Having said that, I am so glad that in this continent it is hard to get guns and that here the good guys actually are armed better than the bad guys, imagine if all these recent ramadan attacks had people with guns perpetrating them, the impact would have been a hell of a lot worse.

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I suspect this fellow was somehow mentally unstable. What did he hope to achieve by bringing a hammer agaisnt men armed with guns?

To be fair, everyone who hopes to accomplish something through terrorist violence and believes in a man in the sky who will reward him with virgins for it is mentally unstable.

[AeneasBK]

But a knife is easy to get a hold of, surely stabbing someone with a knife would have been more effective than trying to hit them with a hammer?

I think a lot of police wear anti-knife undergarments (could be wrong on that) to avoid getting stabbed, imagine it's pretty hard to armor against a hammer, so maybe it is more effective. I'm not an expert either; but experts suck the fun out of discussion anyway

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I think a lot of police wear anti-knife undergarments (could be wrong on that) to avoid getting stabbed, imagine it's pretty hard to armor against a hammer, so maybe it is more effective. I'm not an expert either; but experts suck the fun out of discussion anyway

speaking of that, this was posted to reddit yesterday


https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/commen...ainmail_armor/

European police going to start dressing like this? i like it :P

cant seem to link the image from that post without re-hosting the image :\

[JohnBrown1917]

Actually the opposite, just take a look at the demographic of that "bad neighborhood" Remove the demographic = crime removed. Easy. No need to thank me for that revelation tho. But what you do need to do is not apply seemingly shit stats to everyone when most of the crap is done by specific type of people.

Like the current problem in Europe is a group of specific people, from those stats you can gather another group of people responsible for crime.

...Criminials? Because eh... they also commit most of the crim here.
Or you talking about another 'type' of people? Because you have to be more specific, although i'm assuming the worst.

[Ghostpanther]

Always have to make sure you +1 your enemy.
Build a Railgun in your backyard! just to be safe.

Na. Just be a good shot and use the right weapon for you.

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But you do get that more people are killed by random gun violence in the US than by terrorists, right?
I mean, more people are killed by accidents involving guns than by terror.

You're actually more likely to be shot by your own gun than being killed by a terrorist.

But you still don't see a problem, do you?

Not at all. Because I understand statistics do not tell the whole story. I have had firearms for decades. And automobiles. Never had any accidents with my firearms, but sure have with my automobiles. :P

[draynay]

Was it a domestic or imported hammer?

[Ghostpanther]

Was it a domestic or imported hammer?

Obviously a unregulated one. They should put serial numbers on hammers too. :P

[Aggrophobic]

Na. Just be a good shot and use the right weapon for you.

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Not at all. Because I understand statistics do not tell the whole story. I have had firearms for decades. And automobiles. Never had any accidents with my firearms, but sure have with my automobiles. :P

So you say you understand statistics yet you use one instance to prove that your right...
Are you sure you understand?

But sure, I've owned firearms for many years as well. No accidents.
That doesn't change the fact that giving one to people that can't handle it is a bad idea.

[Ghostpanther]

So you say you understand statistics yet you use one instance to prove that your right...
Are you sure you understand?

But sure, I've firearms for many years as well. No accidents.
That doesn't change the fact that giving one to people that can't handle it is a bad idea.

What I am saying is, if I lived in say, Chicago, then the chances of me getting shot there would be far greater than they are where I live in Ohio. So in this way, the statistics can be misleading. Makes no difference however what the statistics are, if I want to use one for self protection. Having it when I need it, is what matters.

I agree in the US we could do better when it comes to training for gun owners. And closing loop holes for background checks would be good. But we do have regulations which by law, certain people can not have use of a firearm. Such as criminals, certain lawful restrictions as a restraining order, etc.

[Aggrophobic]

What I am saying is, if I lived in say, Chicago, then the chances of me getting shot there would be far greater than they are where I live in Ohio. So in this way, the statistics can be misleading. Makes no difference however what the statistics are, if I want to use one for self protection. Having it when I need it, is what matters.

I agree in the US we could do better when it comes to training for gun owners. And closing loop holes for background checks would be good. But we do have regulations which by law, certain people can not have use of a firearm. Such as criminals, certain lawful restrictions as a restraining order, etc.

That comes of as way more reasonable. Thank you.