Is academia really progressive or are most professors just phony mainstream liberals?

[Zython]

it is not progressive, it is regressive and anti-intellectual.

at least, that seems to be what it has become, with people like bill nye.

Ah yes. Bill Nye saying you won't go to hell for having buttsex is extremely regressive and anti-intellectual, yes.

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Social sciences and humanities have become infested. They arent beyond redemption though and we still have a need for them, but we need to get these bullshit critical theory, postmodernist pseudo-scienes of campuses. These people are regressive, not progressive.

Ok. I'm going to explain this VERY slowly. Just because what science says disagrees with your worldview doesn't make them evil "cultural marxists" or "SJWs" or "Zionists" or whatever.

I swear to Santa, if I read one more time that i need to be "gendercompetent" and "to stay on top of things" as well as "have a high stress resistance" "in intercultural spaces" "to work out conflict of interests between parties" by being a "good communicator" and "provide information in a manner tailored to the recieving party" to apply for a FUCKING OFFICE JOB, I will not stay a good boy until christmas. (translated from German into English)

This is newspeak. It might sound like a joke to you, but it most certainly is not. If you are still confused this shit actually means: "would you like to deal with the scum of the earth and people who are too stupid to tie their shoelaces or quite possibly both, then apply here.".

They're trying to tell you to not be a self-important asshole, actually.

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It matters because he is being taken seriously, and as the foundation of this discussion alluded, pushing pseudo-science to a seemingly gullible audience. The pushback from calling the truth the truth seems to stem from this idea that if people don't adhere to the theory of gender fluidity, they must hate people who identify as gender-fluid, and bully them or something. Everyone I know disagrees with the theory in favor of science, but still treat people who do identify as gender-fluid with common decency. To each their own, with your own subjective understanding. But I'm not willing to abandon science for you.

You keep calling it "the truth", and "science", but you haven't posted any scientific evidence of your claims? Look, I get it. You think what you were taught in elementary school from textbooks that predate the Cold War is the One Truth. But...those text books were made to be understood by children in a time when most research on trans people was destroyed.

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That is a tough call. There is a great variety, but I would say at least one is absolutely a committed Marxist of some variety. He is fully Social Justice and Hard-Left oriented in every sense of the term. He is also white, male, straight ect. Two professors actually voted Trump, one being a duel citizen (I think) of two countries and not white and the other being white and both are women. The rest fall in a spectrum of Leftyness, but only one I know of for sure was a Hillary Clinton voter purely because her Feminism outran her Lefty pieties and she felt she should "Vote for a Woman, because women have to!"

Ok.

Why does this make them evil or wrong?

[DustWolf]

Studies have shown that the more educated you are, the more liberal or left wing you are. It serves to reason than that some of the most educated people also have a majority of liberals.

I'd almost be willing to bet that this is largely due to universities being left leaning. I'm not even close to America, but have you ever heard of an university that is more right leaning? (I'm sure there are, but the point is, they're not really known.)
So with universities (and their professors) being more left leaning, they of course "indoctrinate" (using this term ironically) their students to be more left leaning as well. I'd argue that if you joined an university apolitical, there's a greater chance of you becoming left leaning than right leaning -- but not due to the fact that "being left is generally considered to be the right thing", but because the institutions themselves do not provide a politically balanced curriculum. (At least that's how things run in my country (no university informs its students about right leaning politics), I'll probably get slammed for trying to apply this to US schools, but what the heck, it's the internet :P )

[Linkedblade]

Real academia like stem is fine. It's all these liberal arts and "studies" that are completely useless.

[Runenwächter]

Ok. I'm going to explain this VERY slowly. Just because what science says disagrees with your worldview doesn't make them evil "cultural marxists" or "SJWs" or "Zionists" or whatever.

No you are not. Explaining this slowly I mean. Because you "explain" it as fast or as slow as I read it.
Do you know what makes them marxists? Proclaiming themselves marxists, wearing fucking hammer and sickle shirts, participating enthusiasticly in communist fandom facebook groups are good clues. Oh yeah, AND subscribing to marxist, postmodernist doctrine. Building your academic thesis by viewing everything through a lense of marxist and postmodernist philosophy without critically approaching that philosophy in the first place is a pretty good indicator too. Et voilà!, we got ourselves a marxist and/or postmodernist.

They're trying to tell you to not be a self-important asshole, actually.

No, I'm pretty sure it means what I said it means, both because I know the place this is from and because I've worked in public administration in similar capacities. And if you would be trying so hard to be an antagonizing edgelord, you'd find this a most agreeable statement. Unless dont know any better of course, thats possible too. In that case offering an uneducated opinion which consists of nothing but a thinly veiled insult makes you what?

[Tailswipe]

None of my professors expressed any sort of political views.

Then again our engineering faculty had only male professors and 90% male students which would probably be a hostile environment for a male hating liberal.

[Milchshake]

I love it when my right wing friends complain about rampant lefties as professors, lecturers, or teachers. Outside of a few golden-ticket tenures or billionaire funded chairs... the pay just isnt that great. So teaching as a whole doesnt attract people with profit driven motives. Or those that sing the prosperity gospel of an ammosexual jesus.

I rarely bring any of my own politics into my classes. More often its students inject it themselves into the work. I do try to refrain from too epic an eyeroll when a student tries to explain how awesome Atlas Shrugged is. Because they just read it for the first time... and they're the just the latest in hundreds to do so.
I just warn them about embracing such a strident ideology when starting a project. Since it tends to short circuit a person's own creative and investigative processes.

Though on average the Ron Paul type students tend to take such suggestions way to personally. Then they accuse everybody else of being ideologies. Well 8 and 4 years ago they were Ron Paul guys, this year it was the same types but with MAGA hats.

[derpkitteh]

Ah yes. Bill Nye saying you won't go to hell for having buttsex is extremely regressive and anti-intellectual, yes.

that is not the part i'm talking about.

the bullshit(i refuse to call it science, it has no basis in reality) about gender, the degeneracy promoting sex hungry orgies. it's pathetic.

like, i got nothing against orgies in particular. but pushing it as this perfectly normal thing everyone should do is weird as shit. this stuff has become more of a cult than science.

[Jastall]

"Phony?"

who are you, Holden Caulfield?




Once again, people demonstrate their complete and utter lack of any sort of perspective on issues. The "SJW professors" raising a stink on college campuses about seemingly pedantic nonsense are a very small number and are sensationalized by the media.


You'll find things like "regressive left" and "anti-SJW" and all that other bullshit tumblr nonsense has very little application out in the real world.


So stop pretending it does.

Lies and slander! I saw articles that talk about that stuff on the internet, so obviously it's objectively true and extremely widespread /s.

It's the same kind of thought process that leads some people to believe porn looks like real sex, or at least the sex that the vast majority of humans have.

[Mormolyce]

But what about the progress conservatives such as teddy, Taft and slightly but not moderate bush sr? And I know Canada has or had a progressive Conservative party as well.

Progress conservative is essentially an oxymoron.

Individual politicians can of course fall anywhere on the spectrum.

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Again, there's a plethora of ways to move forward. Progressiveness is nothing but a general concept.

Progressiveness implies moving forward but not how to move along that path.

Exactly.

The one thing that is not progressive is maintaining the status quo (ie conservatism) or moving back to a previous state (traditionalism or more accurately regressives).

[Zython]

that is not the part i'm talking about.

the bullshit(i refuse to call it science, it has no basis in reality) about gender, the degeneracy promoting sex hungry orgies. it's pathetic.

What's anti-scientific about it?

like, i got nothing against orgies in particular. but pushing it as this perfectly normal thing everyone should do is weird as shit. this stuff has become more of a cult than science.

Why are orgies a bad thing?

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No you are not. Explaining this slowly I mean. Because you "explain" it as fast or as slow as I read it.

Do you know what makes them marxists?

Knowing you, probably their lack of foreskin.

Proclaiming themselves marxists, wearing fucking hammer and sickle shirts, participating enthusiasticly in communist fandom facebook groups are good clues. Oh yeah, AND subscribing to marxist, postmodernist doctrine. Building your academic thesis by viewing everything through a lense of marxist and postmodernist philosophy without critically approaching that philosophy in the first place is a pretty good indicator too. Et voilà!, we got ourselves a marxist and/or postmodernist.

Well two things.

1. [citation needed]
2. Assuming you ARE right, one question remains. So what?

No, I'm pretty sure it means what I said it means, both because I know the place this is from and because I've worked in public administration in similar capacities. And if you would be trying so hard to be an antagonizing edgelord, you'd find this a most agreeable statement. Unless dont know any better of course, thats possible too. In that case offering an uneducated opinion which consists of nothing but a thinly veiled insult makes you what?

Cry more.

[derpkitteh]

What's anti-scientific about it?



Why are orgies a bad thing?

i literally just said i have no problem with them. like right fucking there, i said it. it's pushing it like it's normal and everyone should do it is what weirds me out about it, it's cultish behavior.

humans are a species with two sexes. one sex is going to find that they experience inclinations towards things that the other sex might not be as inclined to like. that's not to say there can never be crossover, but in general, a female will likely enjoy more feminine things than the average male and same goes for guys.

i am female, and i wasn't ever really taught what i should or shouldn't like. my main influence was my brother, i tend to like games and fighting and action figures(this is due to a phobia of dolls i developed around age 6 or 7.)

gender isn't a spectrum, it's a set thing. but that doesn't mean that one gender only likes certain things, just that they have an inclination towards certain things. i fully believe you can be the wrong gender paired with the wrong sex, and fully support transpeople. but you will never be a xe. ever. it doesn't exist, and it will never exist.

[Masark]

humans are a species with two sexes.

This is not correct.

but you will never be a xe

Xe is not a gender, it a singular gender-neutral pronoun you would use rather than he or she.

[Endus]

i literally just said i have no problem with them. like right fucking there, i said it. it's pushing it like it's normal and everyone should do it is what weirds me out about it, it's cultish behavior.

If you mean the ice cream cartoon, this is such a ridiculous intepretation of what that said that you're practically parodying your own argument.

humans are a species with two sexes. one sex is going to find that they experience inclinations towards things that the other sex might not be as inclined to like. that's not to say there can never be crossover, but in general, a female will likely enjoy more feminine things than the average male and same goes for guys.

Sex isn't binary. This is biological fact. Disputing this just means you're straight-up wrong.

i am female, and i wasn't ever really taught what i should or shouldn't like. my main influence was my brother, i tend to like games and fighting and action figures(this is due to a phobia of dolls i developed around age 6 or 7.)

And? Nobody's saying you can't be you.

Just that your interpretation of the person you are doesn't have much bearing on anyone else.

gender isn't a spectrum, it's a set thing.

You moved from sex to gender. Gender is a social construct; it isn't biological at all. And as a social construct, it's clearly not "set" by anything.

i fully believe you can be the wrong gender paired with the wrong sex, and fully support transpeople.

And you just directly contradicted a bunch of stuff you said in your own post.

but you will never be a xe. ever. it doesn't exist, and it will never exist.

You don't get to make that determination. It's pretty colossally arrogant to claim you understand someone better than they do themselves, when you don't even know them.

It's particularly silly since "xe" isn't a gender. It's a genderless pronoun; its use is promoted so you can get away from presuming someone's preferred gender. Not sure whether someone thinks of themselves as a he or a she? Call them "xe". Could be applied to literally anyone, by design.

[Zython]

i literally just said i have no problem with them. like right fucking there, i said it. it's pushing it like it's normal and everyone should do it is what weirds me out about it, it's cultish behavior.

So you don't have a problem with them, but they're sinful and abhorrent. What?

humans are a species with two sexes. one sex is going to find that they experience inclinations towards things that the other sex might not be as inclined to like. that's not to say there can never be crossover, but in general, a female will likely enjoy more feminine things than the average male and same goes for guys.

i am female, and i wasn't ever really taught what i should or shouldn't like. my main influence was my brother, i tend to like games and fighting and action figures(this is due to a phobia of dolls i developed around age 6 or 7.)

gender isn't a spectrum, it's a set thing. but that doesn't mean that one gender only likes certain things, just that they have an inclination towards certain things. i fully believe you can be the wrong gender paired with the wrong sex, and fully support transpeople. but you will never be a xe. ever. it doesn't exist, and it will never exist.

[citation needed]

[derpkitteh]

So you don't have a problem with them, but they're sinful and abhorrent. What?

you'd probably puke if you watched some of shit i masturbate to.

but promoting it out in the open as normal and something everyone should do? no, i don't do that. i'm not some freak that thinks my shit's normal, cause none of my shit is normal at all.

[Deletedaccount1]

Yeah after getting a BS in Econ I felt like I needed a long bath to wash all the disgusting pseudoscience and corporate propaganda off.

Where did you go? There are not many schools with entire faculty that are all openly pro-market. GMU and Chicago come to mind.

[Hiricine]

I think most professors just do their job and want to go home, including the liberal and conservative ones. Go look at engineering or medical school professors and they probably don't show up at many protests as a whole, its just that the super progressive ones are the ones who are hyper-vocal and try to take over campus politics.

[Zython]

you'd probably puke if you watched some of shit i masturbate to.

but promoting it out in the open as normal and something everyone should do? no, i don't do that. i'm not some freak that thinks my shit's normal, cause none of my shit is normal at all.

Why not?
/10char

[derpkitteh]

Why not?
/10char

because it is weird and cult-like behavior.

i ain't fucking with a chain of whys like a gradeschooler though.

[Adam Jensen]

My lecturers were all physicists and mathematicians.

I mean, they wanted physics and mathematics to progress...



I think if you load that question any more it'll turn into a turducken.

P.S. I feel like you don't know what the word "progressive" means.

Yeah, Aviation Flight Safety was such a liberal course. "Apoxia and conservatives are a common issue pilots face in the air . . ."