Afford? We don't.
Explain.
Ok, if the main reason people are poor is due to a lack of skills which one acquires in college, and the main barrier to entry occurs before entering colleget,hen how having a good undergrad and/or post grad education helps? To me it seems like trickle down policy.
Last edited by Mittens; 2017-06-25 at 05:29 AM.
Easy. Military will pay for it. They get mercenaries, you get education.
http://people.virginia.edu/~ent3c/pa...l%20(2011).pdf
There are basically no difference between low SES(socio-economic statue) and high SES kids when they are 10 months old, differences start to appear when they are 2 year old, to the point that childrend that come from high SES families score one third of a standard deviation higher than those that come from low SES families. This gap likely increases as time passes. Genetics explains the differences on high SES families but not on low SES families.
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Take 2 years of community college for almost no money, transfer to a University replacing all the retards who drop out, Get a reputable degree for half the price.
The problem is your black and white view.
There is no main barrier, there is a collective of problems that need to be taken care of.
High education cost is one ( and is by the way the topic of this thread), free education means higher taxes on the wealthy, so it's not the same as trickle down economy. It's actually making higher education affordable so less fortunate can enroll if they are interested.
Making people interested in the other hand, is another topic for another thread.
If you're over a certain age (24?) you aren't required to claim your parents' taxes for your student aid application. If you've been unemployed (in my case, taking care of my mom and her home) then that means you likely have an estimated family contribution of $0. This means you're "in dire need" for student aid. This is how I've been attending college: highest-level state and federal grants. Since between them I'm completely covered, I don't have to take out anything else, be it loans or scholarships or whatever. As I'm going into a medical field, I could also get a hefty number of other grants and scholarships easily. When I go to grad school, I'll also likely be a candidate for fellowships (considering the field).
Obviously this specific path isn't open to everyone, and especially not to fresh high school grads, but for, say, homeless or disabled folks, it's a pretty good way to keep costs down.
How do we afford it? By using common sense.
I have a four year Bachelor's Degree and was able to graduate from my university debt-free.
I went to a local community college for the first two years of college and got an Associate's Degree there. Going to community college is WAY cheaper than going to a university or private school and the degree is just as good. Saved a ton of money this way. I think my most expensive semester there only cost me $1,000.
I also applied for basically any and every scholarship that I could find that I was eligible for. I also worked in a job that I applied my Associate's Degree towards while going the last two years of school to a state university to get my Bachelor's Degree. The money I got from scholarships and the money I made at my job paid for everything at university. So, I ended up graduating with literally zero college debt. The only debt I had was my car payment.
Of course, it also helped that I took as many dual-credit (college credit) classes that I could while still in high school where they were basically free. I also worked my butt off and made straight A's all throughout high school and college. Made getting scholarships that much easier. With all the dual-credit classes I took in high school, I went into my first year of college with enough credits already under my belt to be considered a sophomore in college.
I basically put forth the work and effort where I needed to the most and made sure that I planned ahead in order to maximize my education with the least amount of costs required to do so.
A lot of people could do what I did and graduate with little or no student debt. It's just that most people are too lazy or simply don't care enough to put forth the effort required in order to do what I did. I started planning all of this as a freshman in high school. Most people don't even start caring about college and its expenses until DURING or AFTER college. Then they bitch about being in debt forever because they were too stupid/lazy to care/try.
Last edited by Zephyr Storm; 2017-06-25 at 05:41 AM.
ofc there is - like in every single country around the world - you have certain univeristies after which its wasy to land a good job and there are some privite schools which diploma is worth as much as toilet paper for employers - in general its all about connections/networking you make during uni years - those are the biggest benefit you can have in your future life.
It isn't wrong to call grass purple because when I say purple we both know it's obviously green. Stop being obtuse!
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A bunch of different ways.
1. Parents pay for it.
2. Students use a combination of federal and private loans.
3. Grants and scholarships.
4. Military service
5. Tuition assistance from an employer.
6. A combination of the above.
Gi bill paid for my undergrad and my employer is paying for my masters.
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Damn it, cut myself on that edge.
Except the main reason people aren't interested is motivation (see here figure 3.II.1 (and that whole section by that matter)). Making college free is just a subsidy to those well off, and if you are charging higher taxes to counter the trickle down part of the policy then you might as well just make mean-tested programs.
Edit: I should add that academic barriers exist and play an important role as well. (See here page 144 to 145)
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Last edited by Lokryn; 2017-06-25 at 06:22 AM.
Well the 2 largest forms of debt in the nation are medical and student. So the answer is most don't afford it even if they go for awhile.
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