So you're going to purposely ignore the definition of "song"?
I'm just pointing out what I see in the game.Yet that is what you heavily imply in your previous post.
Actually it would, since classes are heroes of the game, and professions are menial hobbies that the hero can possibly undertake. It would make sense that a grenade wielded by a hero would be superior to a grenade wielded by a profession chump.That is simply a gameplay distinction that does not exist in the lore.
It's a valid comparison, since the Hunter grenade IS vastly superior to the engineering grenade, just like Gazlowe's shredder is vastly superior to the Sky Golem.Well, that's nothing but headcanon. I hope you are aware of that. Funny how once again your hypocrisy and double-standards show, as you criticize anyone who use 'headcanons', but have no problem affirming your own headcanons as fact.
Except the fact that its effect is literally the combination of both Priest hymn spells at that time, has the same animation, and is also a hymn."Clearly"? It's as "clear" as charcoal. Just because it has 'hymn' in the name doesn't immediately mean that it was made from Priest spells!
Prove to you that a spell called "Song of Chi-Ji" is actually a song? That would be quite a waste of time when the proof is in the title itself, and the fact that Chi-ji's concept has song within it.Show me it's an actual song, that it's actually music-based, and not just a name for the spell. Because it's not uncommon, in WoW, to have spells that don't do exactly what the name implies.
The point is that in almost every occasion we have a NPC with song abilities, they also have shout abilities. That indicates that shout spells are part of the bard concept in WoW. Thus, all of those Warrior shout abilities should also be considered "Bard" abilities.Luckily we don't want a bard class based on the Mantid. And again, the Mantid were just used to show that song- and music-based spells are not something alien to WoW.
Then by all means, provide an example of a Bard in WoW that has an ability set that doesn't resemble existing classes. in the absence of that, we have to use concepts from other games like the DnD concept.WoW is not "other games", and the DnD bard is not the quintessential bard concept. The DnD Bard having 'word' spells is completely irrelevant.
Yes, and both of those actions were done to maintain the tradition of having heavy ties to the WC3 incarnation of the Demon Hunter.Demon Hunters say 'hello'. Broke tradition by having only two specs. Broke tradition by "taking a major ability from an existing class". Not sure if you're noticed, Teriz, but Blizzard "deviates from tradition" nearly all the time.
Except I said "Warcraft", not "WoW". Keep in mind that even though we had DKs with Warrior and Warlock abilities in Naxx, we still had the WC3 incarnation of Death Knights to pull from. When DKs entered WoW as a class, they were loaded with WC3 abilities as typical of every WoW class before it.Death Knights say 'hello'... with their warrior and warlock abilities...
WC3 is still "Warcraft".
Where did I ever say that Songs and shouts were the same? I said that Shouts are part of the Bard trope, and are considered "Bard" abilities in many games, including apparently WoW.With this, I'm done entertaining your dishonesty. If you seriously cannot differentiate song and music from one-word spells and raging shouts, I'm surprised you still have the IQ to be able to type. In this thread, so far, you've shown nothing but dishonesty, double-standards, hypocrisy and bait-and-switch tactics.
In WoW, Forresten an NPC that have been propped up in this thread as being an example of a "Bard in WoW" have Shout abilities along with singing abilities.
Don't shoot the messenger, I'm simply pointing out the facts.