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    CNN threatens to dox creator of Trump meme

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politi...eet/index.html

    CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

    CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
    This is pretty disgusting, they 'reserve the right' to dox him in the future. I'm disappointed that they forced an apology out of him, but it sounds from their statement like there was some sort of implicit threat of a national doxing.

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    Your thread title is an absolute lie.

    The article states the creator retracted what he did and regrets it. That's all that was reported.

    But no, you dumbas deplorable dump suppporters have to go and spin this (ie. lie) into something against CNN backed with ZERO evidence other than your dumbass pride being hurt.

    Reporting this post to have it's thread retitled to stop your endless war in promoting Dumbass Dump lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Your thread title is an absolute lie.

    The article states the creator retracted what he did and regrets it. That's all that was reported.

    But no, you dumbas deplorable dump suppporters have to go and spin this (ie. lie) into something against CNN backed with ZERO evidence other than your dumbass pride being hurt.

    Reporting this post to have it's thread retitled to stop your endless war in promoting Dumbass Dump lies.
    Nope, based on the article from CNN themselves they threatened to dox him.

    Seems like blackmail to me, should be a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politi...eet/index.html

    This is pretty disgusting, they 'reserve the right' to dox him in the future. I'm disappointed that they forced an apology out of him, but it sounds from their statement like there was some sort of implicit threat of a national doxing.
    Uhm... they already doxxed him by finding out who he is. The guy apologized and deleted his posts. They didn't force him to apologize either, as according to him he was just trolling and didn't want anyone to think he is the sort of person he pretends to be on forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Your thread title is an absolute lie.

    The article states the creator retracted what he did and regrets it. That's all that was reported.

    But no, you dumbas deplorable dump suppporters have to go and spin this (ie. lie) into something against CNN backed with ZERO evidence other than your dumbass pride being hurt.

    Reporting this post to have it's thread retitled to stop your endless war in promoting Dumbass Dump lies.
    Did you read the part of the quote directly from the article that said :


    CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
    They are reserving the right to dox him, they clearly state it in their article
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Nope, based on the article from CNN themselves they threatened to dox him.

    Seems like blackmail to me, should be a crime.
    The thing they did wrong is not revealing his name? What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The thing they did wrong is not revealing his name? What?
    The thing they did wrong was where they admitted that they are reserving the right to dox him, and implied that they did not dox him so far because he apologized and promised to not post memes again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    They are reserving the right to dox him, they clearly state it in their article
    No shit they do. Why is it a problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The thing they did wrong is not revealing his name? What?
    All the guy did was put the logo in a gif.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Your thread title is an absolute lie.

    The article states the creator retracted what he did and regrets it. That's all that was reported.
    The implicit threat is the part of the article that was quoted here, specifically
    CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
    They reserve the right to publish his identity if he acts like a scumbag online? How individual online communities want to deal with scumbags is up to them, not up to CNN. They're basically reserving the right to police his words in places where CNN has no business being.

    The fact that they even put in the effort to find out who he was over this indicates that they decided to compete with Trump for thinnest skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Uhm... they already doxxed him by finding out who he is.
    Finding out someone's personal information for yourself isn't what doxxing is. It becomes doxxing when you release that information to everyone else. Feel free to find some Wikipedia page, Urban Dictionary or some other internet resource to contradict me. I'm sure they may very well do that. We all know what I'm saying is true, though.

    And, yes... I personally wouldn't expect anything else from the Clinton News Network. Their behavior during the Clinton-Sanders race showed their true colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    The thing they did wrong was where they admitted that they are reserving the right to dox him, and implied that they did not dox him so far because he apologized and promised to not post memes again.
    But, they would have the right to do it, even if they didn't say it they do. Your issue is they didn't reveal his name and stated the reality that they can?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    Finding out someone's personal information for yourself isn't what doxxing is. It becomes doxxing when you release that information to everyone else. Feel free to find some Wikipedia page, Urban Dictionary or some other internet resource to contradict me. I'm sure they may very well do that. We all know what I'm saying is true, though.

    And, yes... I personally wouldn't expect anything else from the Clinton News Network. Their behavior during the Clinton-Sanders race showed their true colors.
    What are they doing wrong?
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    But Trump said it didn't come from Reddit.

    Yet, CNN found him and the dude admitted everything. He was even stoked about it. See?

    So guess what? Yet another provable blatant lie by Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    Related video that pretty much covers my opinion on this:
    That opinion being that the president of the US's action are not to be covered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    But, they would have the right to do it, even if they didn't say it they do. Your issue is they didn't reveal his name and stated the reality that they can?

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    What are they doing wrong?
    Doxxing should be a crime.

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    That's odd. I thought the right was all about "doxing" anonymous sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Doxxing should be a crime.
    Why exactly is this true in this case? This isn't a leaker, nor a whistleblower, nor anyone that risks a reaction based on the content of what he said?

    This is a guy that was explicitly spreading misinformation to troll people for Trump. As in everything that is supposed to be evil about CNN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Why exactly is this true in this case? This isn't a leaker, nor a whistleblower, nor anyone that risks a reaction based on the content of what he said?

    This is a guy that was explicitly spreading misinformation to troll people for Trump. As in everything that is supposed to be evil about CNN.
    It either should or shouldn't depending on whether you believe privacy is a basic human right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    That's odd. I thought the right was all about "doxing" anonymous sources.
    No, even adding political affiliation changes thus to something it isn't. This isn't persecution of a political rival. This isn't a threat that people should watch out for what they say. This became a story because the president of the US, used this guys work in a tweet. Trump might have used some foresight in what this would do to the guy, as he went through same shit with his Star of David tweet. Instead, he fucks over this guy by posting this on twitter, as the president of the free world. As if that wouldn't be scrutinized to infinity... yet, CNN is doxxing the guy by telling him they know who he is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    yet, CNN is doxxing the guy by telling him they know who he is?
    That's not what the issue is. The issue is the implied threat, not that they've actually doxxed him.
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