Battle for Azeroth Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[TheFirstOnes]

...Did we just guess the expansion's title? Holy crap! Storm of Kul'tiras..?

No? We didn't?

That's like saying the next Expansion is going to be Called "War on Orcs", because the prequel to it is called "War Crimes".

It doesn't make sense. Besides, Kul'tiras is too small to be its own Expansion. It's even smaller than Gilneas in terms of size. The Broken Isles only worked cause it was built up in different sections of Cultures.

While, for Kul'tiras and shit, it's only built up by 1 Kingdom/1 Culture of People.

For example: Kul'tiras is all Human, and Zandalar is all Troll.

[Deleted]

• Professional, albeit grainy, logo with details that seem to be too good for a fake.
• Top Reddit post featuring the logo got deleted for no apparent reason.
• A name and imagery which fits the speculated theme of the expansion perfectly: stormy seas and vengeance. Fits with all the main cast, Sylvanas, Jaina, Azshara, Old gods, Genn Greymane, Alleria, and so on. Also something which neatly leads into Shadow (the "dark side").
• 80% convinced this is it.

[EbaumsTipster]

No? We didn't?

That's like saying the next Expansion is going to be Called "War on Orcs", because the prequel to it is called "War Crimes".

It doesn't make sense. Besides, Kul'tiras is too small to be its own Expansion. It's even smaller than Gilneas in terms of size. The Broken Isles only worked cause it was built up in different sections of Cultures.

While, for Kul'tiras and shit, it's only built up by 1 Kingdom/1 Culture of People.

For example: Kul'tiras is all Human, and Zandalar is all Troll.

Except multiple leaks have pointed to the main villains originating from Kul'tiras, while there still be many places to go and visit in the area. Hell one of the most legit leaks so far from the database points out an Armored Raptor, and unless Vol'jin comes back from the dead as a zombie and usurps Sylvanas we're probably going to a troll island.

[Steampunkette]

I don't think the Kul'Tiras armor title means we'll actually have an expansion with the name in it. After all, we also datamined Zandalar armor and weapons, right? Kinda indicates that maybe it's leveling gear named after the Continent/Island/Zone.

[TheFirstOnes]

We're going to get an Azshara/N'zoth themed Expansion, that'll likely be a Part 1 of 2/3 in the Void Lord's Story Arc.

I expect that, at the end of this Expansion, we're going to be too late to stop Azeroth's Corruption, she'll become a Void Titan, and we'll have to stop her from wherever she's at. Though, not without killing N'zoth Mid-Tier, and Azshara first tier.

And, by "stop", I mean cleanse. I don't think Azeroth will die anytime soon. That is, not without the Void Lord's dying.

[Shadochi]

No? We didn't?

That's like saying the next Expansion is going to be Called "War on Orcs", because the prequel to it is called "War Crimes".

It doesn't make sense. Besides, Kul'tiras is too small to be its own Expansion. It's even smaller than Gilneas in terms of size. The Broken Isles only worked cause it was built up in different sections of Cultures.

While, for Kul'tiras and shit, it's only built up by 1 Kingdom/1 Culture of People.

For example: Kul'tiras is all Human, and Zandalar is all Troll.

Weren't the Broken Isles before Legion just Suramar and Temple of Elune/Tomb Of Sargeras (Which was once a part of Suramar), so basically just elven culture. They can easily say more species migrated to KT with the Shattering and Wounding.

Also, main focus point might be KT, while Zandalar and Dragon Isles (or some other islands) are side focus.

[Hugnomo]

• Professional, albeit grainy, logo with details that seem to be too good for a fake.
• Top Reddit post featuring the logo got deleted for no apparent reason.
• A name and imagery which fits the speculated theme of the expansion perfectly: stormy seas and vengeance. Fits with all the main cast, Sylvanas, Jaina, Azshara, Old gods, Genn Greymane, Alleria, and so on. Also something which neatly leads into Shadow (the "dark side").
• 80% convinced this is it.

I'm a 100% certain the first word in that is Tides.

[Shadochi]

I don't think the Kul'Tiras armor title means we'll actually have an expansion with the name in it. After all, we also datamined Zandalar armor and weapons, right? Kinda indicates that maybe it's leveling gear named after the Continent/Island/Zone.

No, the Zandalari stuff was us no longer being able to auto extract the Zandalari icons from ToT, but they are still available in game. Nothing new was added.

[Ningjinq]

Any chance someone has noticed suspicious armor name from 7.3? Like that Suramar drape from Doom Lord Kazzak in WoD.

[TriHard]

I realise it's a bit ironic for me to ask this: but how do you know those posts were deleted and when did that happen? Just curious so we can see if the situations were similar.

One of them got media coverage by a few sites and blew up on fan sites (the rise of the naga something), and the echoes of nazjatar one was deleted by mmo champion mods and as well on reddit which caused even more people to upload it. That was the vrykul / kvaldir one

Both were right before Gamescom.

[EbaumsTipster]

we also datamined Zandalar armor and weapons, right? Kinda indicates that maybe it's leveling gear named after the Continent/Island/Zone.

Those were actually from Mists of Pandaria, and were supposedly going to be used as armor or weapons for the Zandalari trolls we met. The point isn't that they are things in the new expansion, its that items with the names Kul'tiras and Zandalar got scrubbed from the database registry AT THE SAME TIME. Couple that with the CE most likely featuring a horse from Kul'tiras and a Raptor (from Zandalar) means that the two will most likely play a part in the new expansion.

[Hitei]

• Professional, albeit grainy, logo with details that seem to be too good for a fake.
• Top Reddit post featuring the logo got deleted for no apparent reason.
• A name and imagery which fits the speculated theme of the expansion perfectly: stormy seas and vengeance. Fits with all the main cast, Sylvanas, Jaina, Azshara, Old gods, Genn Greymane, Alleria, and so on. Also something which neatly leads into Shadow (the "dark side").
• 80% convinced this is it.

1) It is using the Legion frame as a base. Every logo after BC takes the base frame and makes small adjustments to it beyond color. This one is copying Legion's. You can see this if you look near the Lordaeron L's in the outer frame, above and to the left of the "W" in Warcraft. The curly bit there is directly copied from the Legion logo--except that this curl is Legion specific, not part of the base frame.


This was one of the tweaks Legion did to the frame to get that cleaner Legion architecture aesthetic.

Base form:


The top spikes are also using Legion's frame instead of the base.


Base form:


This is highly suggestive of someone altering an existing logo rather than a new one from Blizzard, which should be working off the base and modifying, not working off the Legion and doing so.

The chain at the bottom (while a nice touch) is also suspect. It's very simple compared to the rest of the logo and to every logo even used and the center below the C should have a bunch of diagonal spikes, a feature of every single logo. And the side spikes also appear to be directly taken from the legion version.



The logo is also extremely flat for something that looks as though it's meant to be animated, it's missing the copyright symbol which should be just to the right of the T, parallel with its top, the blue highlights on the "Warcraft" look like they were sloppily painted or paint-bucketed on (you can even see where the highlight goes out past the C in one place


The lightsource itself here seems confusd, it's only applying to the bottom of the letters, and doing so evenly when it appears to be lit from the center bottom, and so should be much weaker towards the left and right side of "Warcraft", and the text seems poorly color-balanced for the palette. They adjust the yellow to better fit the colors being used, the globe is a bit too bright, saturated and attention drawing.

And if you look carefully above the W you can see there is a mismatch in the frame where it should be continuous.




Not saying it's impossible it's real, but lots of little mistakes and "off" things. Wow logos are professionally done. Highly likely to be fake.

Still 90% sure this is fake.

[CosmicGuitars]

Clearly this is all one giant conspiracy to conceal THE TRUTH.

[Shadochi]

Any chance someone has noticed suspicious armor name from 7.3? Like that Suramar drape from Doom Lord Kazzak in WoD.

There was something from one of the 7.0 world bosses referencing a south seas pirate faction.

[TheFirstOnes]

• Professional, albeit grainy, logo with details that seem to be too good for a fake.
• Top Reddit post featuring the logo got deleted for no apparent reason.
• A name and imagery which fits the speculated theme of the expansion perfectly: stormy seas and vengeance. Fits with all the main cast, Sylvanas, Jaina, Azshara, Old gods, Genn Greymane, Alleria, and so on. Also something which neatly leads into Shadow (the "dark side").
• 80% convinced this is it.

Remember, Legion's logo was all Silver and Green and shit. It had the Fel taint ALL over it. Here, it looks as though the Water is hitting the "Warcraft" part of the Logo (Which makes sense), and it also looks as if there are Purplish/Blackish Drips going down from the actual Logo itself (Most likely representing the whole Black Empire part of the Expac. That, or it expresses Azeroth's incoming corruption).

It may be real, it may not be real. We don't know.

[EbaumsTipster]

There was something from one of the 7.0 world bosses referencing a south seas pirate faction.

Bloodsail, right? Many people have theorized that Bloodsails will play a part in the expansion, maybe a faction we work with. Their leader got a new piece of artwork in Hearthstone. I can't remember his name for the life of me.

[Shadochi]

One of them got media coverage by a few sites and blew up on fan sites (the rise of the naga something), and the echoes of nazjatar one was deleted by mmo champion mods and as well on reddit which caused even more people to upload it. That was the vrykul / kvaldir one

Both were right before Gamescom.

Echoes wasn't deleted on MMOC, was just ran through some auto spam stuff and was back within an hour or two

[Hyrja]

1100 boys! 9k to go for Blizzcon!

[effs]

Maintenance is longer this week. 3am - 11am (EU). Patch possibly?

[Shadochi]

Bloodsail, right? Many people have theorized that Bloodsails will play a part in the expansion, maybe a faction we work with. Their leader got a new piece of artwork in Hearthstone. I can't remember his name for the life of me.

Actually, most of Flotsam's loot table seems to be referencing the south seas.