Would you call an ambulance for somebody overdosing

[Octa]

For not properly administering the drugs to ensure he doesn't leave his friend watching him choke on his own vomit? Yeah, asshole. Any junkie who values their life knows how to test a batch so it doesn't kill them.

You said you'd let someone die cause they put you in an uncomfortable position. Think it's safe to say you're both HUGE fucking assholes and probably pretty terrible humans as well. The fact that you think walking out of a room and letting someone die knowing doing something as simple as dialing 911 could save his life makes you an ABSOLUTE piece of shit. Your friend died, you made it all about yourself and all you can say is you would have let him die if there were no witnesses (this shows you know it is wrong btw) without even doing the basics that any REMOTELY decent human being would do simply because he put you in an uncomfortable situation. Not sure how many ways it can be said so I hope that was clear.

[Razorice]

I would. Not for me to decide who dies and who lives.

[Deleted]

Depends. Some things people don't start using unless they want to die.

[Allenseiei]

My friend died the other day. Thanks to me he was promptly revived, but I still ask myself if I should've just got up and walked away. I hate to sound like such a cynical edgelord, but if he's depressed enough to be shooting dope isn't death what he's aiming for anyway?

To be honest if his roommate wasn't there I probably would have just let him die. He's an asshole for putting me in that situation anyway.

I think this is a fair moral issue to debate. What would you have done?

Doesn't matter if he wants to die, you should always save him. You are young? Maybe college students? Life can turn and twist in many ways at anytime. Instead of posting here I think you and his other friends should work on improving his life so he doesn't try to suicide (if that was indeed his intention), because you know... That's what friends should do.

[namecraft]

only if it's a celebrity overdosing on "medicine"

[Super Kami Dende]

If it was someone I like. Yeah of course.

If it was someone I didn't like, Nah and would probably enjoy the satisfaction of it.

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I would. Not for me to decide who dies and who lives.

Isn't that exactly what you are doing by calling for help?

[DrMcNinja]

Death is the quick way out, and that's how they view it. They might feel like they are a bother for everyone around them, or something else. But death is not the answer to all problems.

So yeah, I would 100% call it. Depressive people need all the help they can get, just not with dying.

[Annu]

Thank you. This person is a very good friend of mine and I have offered to take him to NA meetings in the past. Hardly anyone gives a shit about this kid yet I stick by him hoping he will clean up his act. I have told him before I don't enjoy his company when he's nodding off and asked him not to do that shit around me. I honestly believe he would have appreciated it more if I let him stay dead, despite his thanks for saving his life.

If he was happier being dead, he still has plenty of opportunities to kill himself. He can do it every day for the rest of his life. There is nothing lost in this regards.

However, he has to make this decision on himself. If you would have done it for him, you would worry for the rest of your life if it was the right decision. Sometimes a drug overdose is just a cry for help and people do it intentionally in a way, where someone is able to save them. These people typically do not really want to die, they would prefer to get help out of their misery.

If someone really wants to die, people use more lethal methods. Drugs, open veins or pills are typical methods for people who want to be saved. You just need google to tell you what is highly lethal and what isn't. People provide this information especially for those who want to be saved.

[Dastreus]

How is this even a debatable subject??? Yes. Call it. wtf is wrong with you?

[Zmaniac17]

For not properly administering the drugs to ensure he doesn't leave his friend watching him choke on his own vomit? Yeah, asshole. Any junkie who values their life knows how to test a batch so it doesn't kill them.

Hang on here. This is incorrect. There are many cases where your body can OD on a dose that it previously was able to deal with. In fact many junkies who try to quit overdose when they relapse and start using again. Your body also responses less to the drugs the more you use them. So to get a high the dose needs to be increased. The human body is complex. It takes years in medical school to be able to safely administer drugs and even doctors have been know the make mistakes.

You know you situation better than I do so I won't give you advice on your friend. I hope you work things out.

[Medusa Cascade]

If they overdosed on anime porn? Probably not.

Impossible I assure you, I've tried

[Nynax]

My friend died the other day. Thanks to me he was promptly revived, but I still ask myself if I should've just got up and walked away. I hate to sound like such a cynical edgelord, but if he's depressed enough to be shooting dope isn't death what he's aiming for anyway?

To be honest if his roommate wasn't there I probably would have just let him die. He's an asshole for putting me in that situation anyway.

I think this is a fair moral issue to debate. What would you have done?

Sometimes Anger towards the person lost (or you almost thought lost) is a grief response. In order to not feel the pain we find a way to shift our focus. In your case I would assume that you've experienced the shock that your friend might be dead, relieved he is not dead, and now realizing that, for an indefinite time, you will constantly be wondering if he'll do it again. Anger may be self defense mechanize in an attempt to not feel that constant worry.

The important thing to realize is that he did not do this specifically to hurt you. People in severe depressive states often have a "tunnel vision" to their circumstances, and are psychologically incapable of seeing outside their focus on "life sucking" without professional help.

I'm also going to recommend Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy by David D. Burns, for you, your friend, and basically everyone to read. If he expresses any desire to take control of his own depression, that book will help a lot.

[GrinnersGrin]

No, Druggies aren't people

[toxicrusader]

If it was someone I like. Yeah of course.

If it was someone I didn't like, Nah and would probably enjoy the satisfaction of it.

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Isn't that exactly what you are doing by calling for help?

No.

By calling an ambulance, you are not automatically saving his life, he still might die. But no doing so sets up his chances so low you might actually be condemning him.

[cuafpr]

I'd call and thus he would end up in some sort rehab program... if they didn't complete or went back to hard drugs,, i'd either report them back to police, or cut them from my life.

[Aggrophobic]

Yes, of course I would.
What kind of a question is that?

[zenkai]

My friend died the other day. Thanks to me he was promptly revived, but I still ask myself if I should've just got up and walked away. I hate to sound like such a cynical edgelord, but if he's depressed enough to be shooting dope isn't death what he's aiming for anyway?

To be honest if his roommate wasn't there I probably would have just let him die. He's an asshole for putting me in that situation anyway.

I think this is a fair moral issue to debate. What would you have done?

First time yes, second time no.

[PosPosPos]

My friend died the other day. Thanks to me he was promptly revived, but I still ask myself if I should've just got up and walked away. I hate to sound like such a cynical edgelord, but if he's depressed enough to be shooting dope isn't death what he's aiming for anyway?

To be honest if his roommate wasn't there I probably would have just let him die. He's an asshole for putting me in that situation anyway.

I think this is a fair moral issue to debate. What would you have done?

More importantly, you are just here to show off what a bleeding saint you are, but decided that it was too shameless to do it upfront so you thinly veil it under the pretense of a moral debate.

Classic projection from insecurity.

[Voij]

For one I am required by the laws in my country to call an ambulance if I see someone that's in need of one.
Aside from that, I'd call one anyways, simply because they probably didn't want to die, so saving them is the best thing to do [f]for now[/f]. If you really want to die, you'll get it over and done with very, very quickly. If you don't have control over your life and need help, you'll end up "attempting suicide". You subconsciously lack the resolve to die, so it's better if someone called an ambulance to save you. [Mostly basing the "lack of resolve" thing on suicide statistics, where women have ~4x as many suicide attempts as men and there are about 2x as many men who die from suicide as there are women every year.]
So, what I'm trying to say here: If someone ODs, they're very likely to not actually want to die, at least on a subconscious level.

[anveena]

Most likely. However, there are a couple people I know that I would never call 911 for.