New Alliance race : void High elves ? (some spoilers)

[KrakHed]

why not forest trolls instead of nightborne? that would be better.

And how does one preclude the possibility of the other? Perhaps these are just the first four.

[Wyrt]

Auchenai exist in the current universe, they are the ones that went crazy after Auchindoun was detonated by Murmur dropping the bass. Any main universe Draenei Hunter trainers/NPCs were retconned into Rangari.

The MU Auchenai are all dead now though. Unless Blizzard wants to pull out MU Tuulani to revive the order or something the only way to get Auchenai back is from the AU.

[Taeldorian]

I’d rather see Highborne/nightborne as subraces. Void elves look like blood elf shadow priests so it wouldn’t be too exciting. I wouldn’t mind void elves either but I’d prefer the other options.

[deviantcultist]

As a Priest, I pray for Void Elves to be a thing. The game really needs a Void-themed race for a change.

[Coffeexbean]

void elves are too edgy to have on the alliance and there are enough elves in the game already

[Whatever Dude]

Void Paladins baby.

Now we have an excuse to make Forsaken Void Paladins, too.

[Maljinwo]

As a Priest, I pray for Void Elves to be a thing. The game really needs a Void-themed race for a change.

Ethereals then

Why would we need more elves? We have:

Night Elves
High Elves
Blood Elves
Felblood Elves
Darkfallen Elves
Nightborne Elves
Nightfallen Elves
Spider Elves
Undead Elves
Wretched
Withered


Why do we need this "race" where all they do is cast Shadowform?

[Combatbutler]

Ethereals then

Why would we need more elves? We have:

Night Elves
High Elves
Blood Elves
Felblood Elves
Darkfallen Elves
Nightborne Elves
Nightfallen Elves
Spider Elves
Undead Elves
Wretched
Withered


Why do we need this "race" where all they do is cast Shadowform?

You forgot Naga and Satyr ;P

[Drutt]

I, for one, welcome our new Goth Elf overlords.

[Maljinwo]

You forgot Naga and Satyr ;P

I forgave them because we could argue they are already a completely different race

And supposedly, any race can become a Satyr, unless that was retconned

[Aucald]

I forgave them because we could argue they are already a completely different race

And supposedly, any race can become a Satyr, unless that was retconned

The Nightborne, High/Blood, and Night Elves are all different races with different cultures - and the Faldorei, the mutated spider-elves, would be as different a race as the Satyr or Naga. The Felblood, Darkfallen, Nightfallen, Wretched, and Withered are derivations, though.

[Combatbutler]

I forgave them because we could argue they are already a completely different race

And supposedly, any race can become a Satyr, unless that was retconned

Yeah Satyr can be any race, still the vast majority of them were elves.

And Naga may look different but pretty much are the direct continuation of the night elf empire in its purest form.

[Maljinwo]

And Naga may look different but pretty much are the direct continuation of the night elf empire in its purest form.

They are still horribly disfigured trolls

The Nightborne, High/Blood, and Night Elves are all different races with different cultures - and the Faldorei, the mutated spider-elves, would be as different a race as the Satyr or Naga. The Felblood, Darkfallen, Nightfallen, Wretched, and Withered are derivations, though.

But they are just derivations or have the "elf" in their name.

At least nagas look completely different

[Combatbutler]

They are still horribly disfigured trolls

Yeah in a way yes, the trolls and their descendants, did create the mightiest empires Azeroth has ever seen. Too bad they tend to fight with themselves so often.

[Maljinwo]

Yeah in a way yes, the trolls and their descendants, did create the mightiest empires Azeroth has ever seen. Too bad they tend to fight with themselves so often.

Actually, everyone else fights the trolls but the trolls (Except the Darkspear)

Even during their golden age, the Gurubashi and the Amani barely had skirmishes

[Combatbutler]

Actually, everyone else fights the trolls but the trolls (Except the Darkspear)

Even during their golden age, the Gurubashi and the Amani barely had skirmishes

The tribes were constantly at each others throat, capturing members of the others sacrificing them, etc.

Though you are correct all out war was not that common

[KrakHed]

Why do we need this "race" where all they do is cast Shadowform?

They want subraces to share the same racial abilities as their main race. Nightborne go with Blood Elves, because it makes sense for them to have the same racials.

Void Elves exist to give High Elves an excuse to use Shadowmeld.

[Maljinwo]

Void Elves exist to give High Elves an excuse to use Shadowmeld.

Shadowmeld is not the same as Shadowform.

It's as if they create Iron trolls because they use plate armor

[Aucald]

But they are just derivations or have the "elf" in their name.

At least nagas look completely different

That's not really a good divider when determining where one race ends and the other begins. If High Elves and Night Elves are the same "Elves" you could make the same argument for Elves and Trolls, Humans and Vrykul, or even Titans and Keepers - the Warcraft universe tends to use culture as the primary defining attribute that separates the races of its universe. The High/Blood and Night Elves have an entirely different culture that is light years apart, coupled with their relatively minor physiological differences (skin color, height, build, and physiognomy). The Elves and the Naga are essentially an altogether different species, with radically different cultures to boot. The Nightfallen and Nightborne don't have a different culture at all, really; the Nightfallen simply being outcasts and exiles who still mostly cleave to Shal'dorei values with a healthy heaping of humility tacked on due to their plight. Darkfallen are just undead High Elves - though their culture is somewhat different due to the Scourge connection it's very obviously from the trappings around Lana'thel in Icecrown Citadel that she still holds to High/Blood Elven aesthetics.

[KrakHed]

Shadowmeld is not the same as Shadowform.

It's as if they create Iron trolls because they use plate armor

Don't be dumb. I'm saying Shadowmeld is going to be their racial ability. How Void Elves end up looking is irrelevant to that one point.

If they're implemented, they'll have Shadowmeld.