I saw them way back at Rock am Ring 2001.
Hell of a show and I listened to their albums so much back then. A lot of their songs hit home for me back then and still do.
Sad to see a good one go.
RIP
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-- Capt. Copeland
Damn Hybrid Theory was big when I was a lad, big in the skate scene.
Pretty devastated.
This one hits harder than any other I've been around for.
Great vocalist, I really enjoyed his music. But, now he pulls a dick move and screws up his children's lives forever. 6 kids that will always wonder why their dad would rather be dead than come home to them.
My heart feels heavy today. While I haven't listened to them for years now, I listened to Linkin Park so much during my teen years, they were the first band I got REALLY into. Of course I didn't read too deep into the lyrics, I was honestly too young to really get it. But it sounded angry, and I was angry. It helped me cope with some pretty terrible things that happened to me during those years. Hell, I still know all the words to all of the songs on their first three albums.
Despite the fact that I haven't kept up with them in years, the news still hit me really hard. Rest in Peace Chester.
It wouldn't, misery isn't quantifiable. Instead, they would feel their problems aren't "big enough" to justify seeking help and end up at square one. The person you quoted was right, mental illness doesn't care how good your life looks on paper.
It's both a blessing and a curse that people don't understand how someone could do this. It's unfortunate that people see it as a selfish act, or cowardly. The sad reality is that dark thoughts and traumas just follow you through life, and they LOVE to make an appearance when you're at your lowest. Not to mention, if someone has attempted suicide or self harm, no matter how much treatment they get, it will never cease to be an option when at those low points.
This is why it is so important imo to try and help people understand why this can become an option for others. Brushing it off as a cowardly/selfish act just contributes to this mental health stigma that is still out there (although treated much better these days I will admit).
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wasn't the biggest fan of his music but I respect talented singers and he was up there with the best of them. Fucking sucks, OJ gets out and this? Fuck this day.
Rest in peace.
This is sad, i grew up listening to Linkin Park and obviously Chester. Eventually outgrew their music, but they will always hold a place in my heart.
Some very edgy neckbeards without any form of sympathy or respect in this thread, must have been bullied one too many times in school or there must not be enough airflow in your basement dwelling if you feel the need to shit on a dead person.
so sad, way too young, and another talent the world will miss.....the music world has taken a hard hit these past few years /sigh - RIP and may his journey into whatever is out there after life be great.
You seem to have your mind made up, so if this post doesn't soften your stance then hopefully it will someone else.
First and foremost, unless you've personally experienced depression (and I do not mean the "blues") you cannot comprehend what it's like because your brain is not ill. I've suffered from it (diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder, severe & ongoing) since childhood and I've yet to successfully impart upon anyone mentally healthy how horrific it is. There is an overwhelming amount of guilt associated with it. Outsiders see it as being selfish, but I viewed myself as an emotional and financial void. I drained everything from everyone. I was plagued with thoughts of how much better their lives would be without me. They'd be free, happy, prosperous.
Not mine. I've always been very transparent with loved ones. When I felt suicidal I would do everything I could to make sure they knew it wasn't their fault and that there was nothing they could do. Also, suicide is terrifying. There's nothing "easy" about it. The times I attempted or otherwise came close I was in a state of panic. Uncontrollable tears, hyperventilation. It's not like the movies where someone calmly takes a handful of pills and goes to sleep.Friends and family have to go through the torture of questioning if they were the cause, or if they could have done something to prevent it. Those people go through life second guessing a lot of things because soem selfish twat decides that their pain is too much to endure.
Is 20+ years enough for you? Multiple psychiatrists, psychologists, antidepressants, therapy. I even volunteered as a study subject at a psychiatric hospital because conventional treatment was not effective. I had transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), which ended up exacerbating mine. Literally the only two options left for me were ECT (a.k.a. electroshock therapy) and deep brain stimulation, which is where they drill holes into your skull and attach electrodes directly into the brain. Couldn't afford ECT and didn't qualify to receive the latter.If you cared about them, you'd seek help, ty to talk it out, or even seek treatment.
I'm not sure what people who've exhausted all their options are expected to do other than apparently suffer the rest of their lives with endless, indescribable pain. Granted, my experience may be on the extreme side of the spectrum. I've met "high functioning" depressives who've had success simply with an antidepressant, but it should never be assumed it's that easy for everyone. Depression varies widely per individual.
You make it sound like this is an insult, it was my wish. I wanted to be forgotten and to never have existed. I felt like every life I touched I made exponentially worse.And there are a LOTof brave people out there who are dealing with their shit instead of taking the easy way out. Kudos to them! Those who commit suicide should simply be forgotten, no rememberances, no memorials, no homage, nothing, simply forget they even existed, cause they couldn't even be bothered to exist.
Plus, you have to consider the burden we (the depressed) place on others. You've only mentioned friends, it's very different with family. When all they're exposed to is you in crisis 24/7 they're not allowed a moment's respite from your suffering. They can't have any emotional issues of their own because there's no room for it. When they're sad or angry it makes you feel worse, if they're happy you'll quickly make them unhappy (which also makes you feel worse). There's no winning and this can go on indefinitely. It seems comparatively cruel to condemn the people you love to a life sentence of that as opposed to releasing them. Grief is surmountable, the same can't always be said of depression.
Lastly, I want to emphasize that depression is biochemical. The brain is an organ just like any other in the body and it is susceptible to illness. The fact that it controls thoughts and emotions as opposed to breathing or blood flow is inconsequential. It absolutely does not mean you have any conscious control of it whatsoever. Nobody would ever choose to feel this way. Anyone with depression reading this: it is not your fault, you are not a bad person. Public understanding of depression is abysmally low. Most people have no idea what they're talking about and, even if their heart's in the right place, their advice often does more harm than good. Do not let their ignorance get to you.
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"We must now recognize that the greatest threat of freedom for us all is if we go back to eating ourselves out from within." - John Anderson
Is a real shame...even with their changes of music I could still find something I liked of LP's
RIP Chester, RIP.
Very sad loved their music. I hope others find a way out of this.
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This new hit me hard when I heard it earlier. I started thinking back of how I would play their songs on a burned CD from a friend, listened to their songs constantly throughout middle school. Even today, their songs are a part of my Pandora station and won't ever leave.
This song I can't ever get tired of:
What really get's me was learning of his abuse. From age 7 to 13, and not pursuing the case because the abuser was also abused...what a fucking cycle.
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