You should read more about the French mandate and Syrian-Arab history if you think redrawing borders works realistically.
You should read more about the French mandate and Syrian-Arab history if you think redrawing borders works realistically.
@Kuntantee I can't remember but I bet you can.
The minister who told "a little bit radiation is good for body" and drank "the tea" after the Chernobyl disaster affected our tea crops.
So yes a little bit radiation I would gladly take for that
Go a head and provide the necessary material regarding mass raping/beating/brainwashing and murder of Greek slaves by Turks. Make sure it is academic.
Ottoman Empire did enslaved Europeans but
1 - it was for janissary army and their numbers always kept in check, peaking to ~15k at the height of empire.
2 - outside of janissaries, there isn't example of mass slavery by Turks. Barbary raids to Mediterranean shores (Spanish/Italian coastline) were carried out by Arabs (Moroccan what not), not Turks.
In fact, the only difference between a Greek and a Turk was additional taxes, and exclusion from central government. They did hold authority locally at some points, and were subjected to Christian law and their properties were protected by the empire.
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I am afraid your Grandfather is a liar. Turks had constitution with equalizing (Christian) minorities and giving them even more rights in the first constitution (mid 19th century). That's the problem with Greeks, they either lie or they think they know (because that's what they are told in school), but they don't.
If Turks did not threat your grandfather well, you can blame it on Greek rebellion, but constitutionally, he was not a "livestock" not even close. If you insist, however, he was "legally" a livestock. I will invite you to provide necessary material to your claims. I had enough of this farce. Moreover, for ill-treamtment of your grandfather: you can't really be nice to people who are aiming to rebel and slaughter/ethnically cleanse you from your home.
What you Greeks need is a bit more utilization of brain and less nationalistic horseshit. Maybe it'll help you running your state properly.
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Can't say the same for Armenians or Assyrians (not a genocide), but Greeks pretty much deserved the truck hit them after the invasion. You are lucky that Turkish army was in a desperate state after the independence war, otherwise, we'd take Selanik and nearby Turkmen regions. And for the record, I am not saying this out of some nationalistic spree. This has been discussed in 1922 and concluded that it'd be devastating for the army.
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Greece wasn't the home of any Turks. They illegally occupied and colonized parts of it, but it isn't their land to be at home in.
The Altai mountains and surrounding area are your home. Anatolia was home to Armenians, Kurds, Assyrians, Greeks, and others who had been there for millennia.
I'll trust the words of folks who lived through the Ottoman period than Turks, who do have a well-deserved bad reputation for whitewashing their own history.
And you say the Greeks deserved their genocide. Sad you should say that, really. I thought you were a modicum better than a typical Turk.
Guess I was wrong.
So what you have is just bunch of stories, probably highly exaggerated due to the zeitgeist of the era (aka widespread racism). Thanks for clarifying that out.
Modicum? Lol, you are generous. Sorry if that offended you, that was bit off the line, whether it is a genocide or not.