How are alt rights not just Neo Nazis?

[Elegiac]

I think that most conservatives would agree that they agree with a lot of liberal ideas

No, they don't. They say this because it allows them to play themselves as the victim. "Oh, we'd support X if only you weren't so -mean-."

Shows who really needs the safe space, huh?

[Allybeboba]

Arent the alt-right just a meme?

Started that way on 4chan I read. It makes people feel better to think the boogieman is real.

[Raunchy]

Alt rights really are gods gift they troll and the left falls for it everytime

[Draco-Onis]

i said they dont preach or setup the violence that was quoted as them being responsible for.

What the hell difference does that make? they are hate groups they preach and incite violence, does it matter what kind of violence results from that hate?

[Zeta333]

What the hell difference does that make? they are hate groups they preach and incite violence, does it matter what kind of violence results from that hate?

just as many groups not on the right do as well, many religious ones, antifa, ect. i talk about how much i would love to run over people riding bikes in the road. untill i do it iv done nothing illegal.

[Glorious Leader]

They're not socialist for one thing

Neither were the nazis. They abandoned any pretense of that the minute they got into power. Socialism was incredible popular and a useful name to tag ones partu with.

[Draco-Onis]

just as many groups not on the right do as well, many religious ones, antifa, ect. i talk about how much i would love to run over people riding bikes in the road. untill i do it iv done nothing illegal.

You are intentionally moving the goal post and being purposely obtuse in this case you are leading a group of people and telling them how wonderful it is to run people over with bikes on the road. If one or many of your people goes on a rampage running people over with a bike you are now claiming they had no part in that. Again these are hate groups responsible for the vast majority of domestic terrorism in the US, on the FBI watch list with a history of violence.

You keep mentioning Antifa who don't have such a vivid and vile resume although I disagree with them while giving these monsters a pass. Are you that blind to your own bullshit?

[Zeta333]

You are intentionally moving the goal post and being purposely obtuse in this case you are leading a group of people and telling them how wonderful it is to run people over with bikes on the road. If one or many of your people goes on a rampage running people over with a bike you are now claiming they had no part in that. Again these are hate groups responsible for the vast majority of domestic terrorism in the US, on the FBI watch list with a history of violence.

You keep mentioning Antifa who don't have such a vivid and vile resume although I disagree with them while giving these monsters a pass. Are you that blind to your own bullshit?

well iv seen far more fights and violence from antifa and blm in the past years than the kkk.

[raz98]

And now you move the goalposts, as expected.

Your claim was that violence is "Literally one of the biggest defining qualities of it (fascism)". You have been shown to be entirely WRONG about that, and now you pretend to be an expert who somehow know more than the experts.

Well, you can go on making your claims, they have been exposed as nothing but lies, but I guess you'll be going for the "alternative facts" over actual facts.

Who's moving goalposts? Fascism depends on being the only political viewpoint available and it does that by way of violence. That would seem to me like a core part of it. All youve given me is a Wikipedia article that reads as much, hardly showing me to be "entirely wrong"

I think that really depends on how one defines the statement 'forcibly oppress the opposition'.

Scare tactics, threats, property damage, assault. All tactics used currently by Antifa to spread their message of peace, and love during the February 1st, March 4th, and April 15th Berkeley riots(though to be fair, both sides came away from that dirty), and before we go into the whole "Well they were inciting by preaching their message of hate!!" speaking ones mind in this country does not invite a city wrecking riot.

[Draco-Onis]

well iv seen far more fights and violence from antifa and blm in the past years than the kkk.

There's a large cemeteries full of dead bodies including some fresh ones that drop every year that say otherwise.

[Zeta333]

There's a large cemeteries full of dead bodies including some fresh ones that drop every year that say otherwise.

yeh and i can quote entire religious groups that burned whole towns in the past, why arnt we grouping them in this lump as well.

[Spicymemer]

Millennials calling groups of people nazi, neo-nazi or fascist normalises actual nazis.

This is why the voting age should be increased, young people simply cant be trusted these days with their victim culture, identity politics and appropriated persecution.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Millennials calling groups of people nazi, neo-nazi or fascist normalises actual nazis.

Pretty much.

This is why the voting age should be increased,

I dunno about that...

young many people simply cant be trusted these days with their victim culture, identity politics and appropriated persecution.

Exactly. "The reason I can't get a job/am doing so poor in life is cause of those liberals/antifa/black people/affirmative action/feminism!"

[Uglytoes]

No, they don't. They say this because it allows them to play themselves as the victim. "Oh, we'd support X if only you weren't so -mean-."

Shows who really needs the safe space, huh?

Prime example of shutting down discussion. Not everyone in the world is a victim. I know that's a popular ideology going around in society today, but its a lame argument. Its not even about being "mean". Its about freedom of speech. Anyone with an opposing idea is a nazi/facist with hate speech. So people mob and riot and assault other people to prevent a public speaker from exercising their free speech. How does this help move the discussion forward? No one said these people were victims, people have the right to protest, but it does nothing to benefit anyone when you shout over someone who was asked to come speak.

[Draco-Onis]

yeh and i can quote entire religious groups that burned whole towns in the past, why arnt we grouping them in this lump as well.

Because religious groups are divided within the same ideology, they have leadership and spokespeople to denounce and clear out their views. There is no difference between Antifa, BLM and the alt right in that everyone and anyone can claim to belong and that group and there is no official source, leadership or structure to say otherwise. If you didn't know the distinction now you do.

[Zecora]

Who's moving goalposts? Fascism depends on being the only political viewpoint available and it does that by way of violence. That would seem to me like a core part of it. All youve given me is a Wikipedia article that reads as much, hardly showing me to be "entirely wrong"

You are moving goalposts. And you've just proven that you either A: Can't read, B: Didn't bother to read. or C: Were incapable of understanding the article.

[Deleted]

Past tense. Jewish people are not viewed in the same way today, except by certain unsavoury parts of the political right-wing. Besides, your argument applies to the gypsies, as well as just about every indigenous people on occupied...sorry, "colonized" land. Should THEY all get their own country too, or are we once again considering the Israelis "special"?

Gypsies are natives of India. If you have no idea, rather don't talk at all. Indigenous people my ass. WE, EUROPEANS, are indigenous people of this land.

[Deleted]

Gypsies are natives of India. If you have no idea, rather don't talk at all. Indigenous people my ass. WE, EUROPEANS, are indigenous people of this land.

@Yirrah comment is so funny, because nothing is stopping the gypsies of going back to India and trying to carve out land for their own and form a new nation state just like Israel did. Ofc they will never do it, because cuturally they are migrants in nature, so they never want a nationhood. That's why they relocate a lot, that's why their greatest asset was/is their horse and carriage/car and that's why A LOT of them left Romania to go beg/commit crime/maybe work in more richer EU countries.

[StayTuned]

The fuck, you children.

As if the lot of you even knows what a Nazi is except for its Wikipedia definition.

Alt right is no more a real Nazi thing than antifa is. Both are just a collection of new age losers who can't see the hypocrisy in their actions.

None of you wants the real Nazis back. They're not the internet meme as many here believe

[Super Kami Dende]

Exactly. "The reason I can't get a job/am doing so poor in life is cause of those liberals/antifa/black people/affirmative action/feminism!"

AHAHAHAHAHHA... Oh boy. You sure its not "The reason I can't get a Job is Patriarchy, White People, Men, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"