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  1. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    and thats not somthing that those groups preach or setup.
    The KKK, Neo Nazis and right wing militias don't preach or set up violence? really now? there's no equivalency here sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiricine View Post
    In my point as well, we're talking about violence advocated by or perpetrated by groups, which the Alt Right represents a tiny amount of, hence the attempts to associate them with groups that ARE violent, which you don't even have to do for BLM or Antifa whose rank and file members are destroying property and committing acts of violence.
    We are talking about dead bodies, you prefer dead bodies to property damage? . These people who now identify themselves as alt right have a trail of dead bodies in their history. That's the problem with movements like the alt right you don't get to choose who identifies with your group especially with such a wide ranging movement.

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    Well Donald Trump would have to be the king of the alt-righters and even he has said multiple times he doesn't want people to hurt anyone. When talking about his Muslim ban he specifically said something to the effect of "if there are people harassing Muslims I only have on thing to say to you: Stop it."

    If anything needs to be re-labeled it's BLM...they're the ones who say to kill cops and beat up white people, and the movement never comes out and says "no, that's not what we stand for". Obviously if you asked BLM leaders point-blank about such things they'd deny that those things are part of their movement, and yet by not condemning them when they happen they are condoning them. I'm continually flabbergast that Antifa and BLM aren't branded as extremist, terrorist organizations. Martin Luther King must be rolling in his grave.
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  3. #403
    They are literally neo-Nazis.
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    oh look another thread about republicans being nazis, how original, its almost like people have no other way to discuss something other than bashing them to the n'th degree

  5. #405
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Property damage is worse than death.
    then wouldn't that whole shit that shut down ferguson and that bullshit in Baltimore be worse examples? BLM all the way there.

  6. #406
    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    No, i just want to show hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of the alt right not being called what they really are or propbably evolve to.
    Liar, your'e just butthurt over being called a fascist. Alt left are Neo Nazi fascists.

  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    2017 Portland train attack (2 killed),
    2017 stabbing of Timothy Caughman in New York City (1 killed),
    2015 Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting (3 killed),
    2015 Charleston church shooting (9 killed)
    A whopping 15?

    Orlando shooter by himself killed what...36.

    GTFO lol

  8. #408
    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    A whopping 15?

    Orlando shooter by himself killed what...36.

    GTFO lol
    Congratulations, you just stated another prime example of extreme right terrorism.

    So umm, thank you for supporting us?
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  9. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    The KKK, Neo Nazis and right wing militias don't preach or set up violence? really now? there's no equivalency here sorry.

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    We are talking about dead bodies, you prefer dead bodies to property damage? . These people who now identify themselves as alt right have a trail of dead bodies in their history. That's the problem with movements like the alt right you don't get to choose who identifies with your group especially with such a wide ranging movement.
    go ahead and link me where those 2 groups planned and sent out operatives to carry out those terrorist acts, ill be waiting.

  10. #410
    Richard Spencer is quite the White Nationalist, but that is the only thing about him that is exactly "Nazi" esq.

    With the big government, government takeover of business, high regimentation of the people and the restricting of rights I will never understand how Fascism can be called a Right Wing form of government.

    To put it in more understandable terms:
    Right Wingers think: The state can't be trusted to handle much of anything
    Fascists think, and I quote: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" - Benito Mussolini.

    Either fascists are left wing or fascists don't fit on the right-left spectrum. But to me with the state basically running everything and all businesses and workers answering to the state it sounds like Fascism and Communism have more in common than not in common.
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  11. #411
    Quote Originally Posted by IIBloodXLustII View Post
    Richard Spencer is quite the White Nationalist, but that is the only thing about him that is exactly "Nazi" esq.

    With the big government, government takeover of business, high regimentation of the people and the restricting of rights I will never understand how Fascism can be called a Right Wing form of government.

    To put it in more understandable terms:
    Right Wingers think: The state can't be trusted to handle much of anything
    Fascists think, and I quote: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" - Benito Mussolini.
    What right wingers think and do are two completely different things.
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  12. #412
    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    What right wingers think and do are two completely different things.
    Oh, I will not dispute that some "Republicans" have idiotic views when it comes to government. But there are way to many centrist republicans that aren't exactly "right wing". Any time that someone argues for more government, whether for morality laws or marriage laws, they are arguing for an extremely left wing ideology, but only in the reverse of what most left wingers want.

  13. #413
    So far the only group ive seen commit terrible acts of violence is the far left groups. I have not seen or heard mass far right riots and assaults against immigrants or minorites here in the US. I have seen plenty of leftests attacking right wing conservatives just for simply showing visual support of donald trump. That should answer anyones question about who is more like the Nazis.

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    rym i think your overly obsessed with neo nazis. you sure there's something your not telling us? i didn't even need to click on the thread to know it was made by you.
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  15. #415
    Quote Originally Posted by IIBloodXLustII View Post
    Oh, I will not dispute that some "Republicans" have idiotic views when it comes to government. But there are way to many centrist republicans that aren't exactly "right wing". Any time that someone argues for more government, whether for morality laws or marriage laws, they are arguing for an extremely left wing ideology, but only in the reverse of what most left wingers want.
    "Some"? Boy, you have some bizarre interpretation of "vast majority".

    Look at the ACA bill repeal, federal meddling in states' affairs, collusion with Russia, pandering to the rich and Trump himself.

    Point out which part of all of this doesn't involve a majority of Republicans.

    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    rym i think your overly obsessed with neo nazis. you sure there's something your not telling us? i didn't even need to click on the thread to know it was made by you.
    It's a parody thread, since you didn't notice.
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  16. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    "Some"? Boy, you have some bizarre interpretation of "vast majority".

    Look at the ACA bill repeal, federal meddling in states' affairs, collusion with Russia, pandering to the rich and Trump himself.

    Point out which part of all of this doesn't involve a majority of Republicans.



    It's a parody thread, since you didn't notice.
    It's not a parody thread.

    It's a "He failed to get the thread he's salty about locked" thread.

  17. #417
    Fun fact: Nazi needs way more north, so no matter how far right you are - without the north (authoritarian) you are just extreme right.

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  18. #418
    Quote Originally Posted by IIBloodXLustII View Post
    Oh, I will not dispute that some "Republicans" have idiotic views when it comes to government. But there are way to many centrist republicans that aren't exactly "right wing". Any time that someone argues for more government, whether for morality laws or marriage laws, they are arguing for an extremely left wing ideology, but only in the reverse of what most left wingers want.
    Wrong. That's a modern, and quite frankly stupid, interpretation/basterdization of right vs left wing philosophies. Literally a 2 year old's interpretation. There are varying degrees of libertarian and authoritarian views on both the left and right sides of the spectrum. It's only recently that the term "libertarian" has been completely stolen and coopted by a subsection of the right.

    World is far more nuanced than your herp derp more government=left less government=right and completely ignores the entire historical perspective of a very extent authoritarian right.
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  19. #419
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    go ahead and link me where those 2 groups planned and sent out operatives to carry out those terrorist acts, ill be waiting.
    You are the one who said the KKK, Neo Nazis and right wing militias don't preach or set up violence you're a big boy you can use google. That claim is so laughable it's ludicrous, tell the 4K+ black people that the KKK lynched and killed in their past how "peaceful" that group is.

  20. #420
    I took a look at /r/altright on reddit before they got themselves banned.

    It was literal Nazis. Articles about how non-whites are inferior, and about Jewish conspiracies. They are Nazis.

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