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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    So, where's that healthcare plan that Trump promised that would be cheaper and the government would pay for?
    Don't forget it would cover more people and be better coverage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Is lying not an action he should be judged by then? Because he lied. A lot.
    I only care about an actual result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    I only care about an actual result.
    You make Trump supporters look like total pieces of trash. The outrage about "dishonest Hillary" and "crooked Hillary" before the election is being replaced by "yeah, Trump lies far more than Hillary ever did, but I'm ok with his dishonesty".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    I only care about an actual result.
    The result was you were lied to.

    But apparently you're going to bend over and take that like a good little cuck.
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    I'm guessing that alot of his voter base is leaving because he havent built a wall yet, Obamacare is still in place etc. I doubt they're leaving because he's a childish lunatic, he spent a year showing that before they voted for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    The result was you were lied to.

    But apparently you're going to bend over and take that like a good little cuck.
    Nope, economy is up, migration is down, americans are happy (;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    Nope, economy is up, migration is down, americans are happy (;
    Obama presided over the largest increase in Dow, in the history of the US. Trump's current goal of 3% GDP growth, was hit by Obama in 14-16 quarters. Unemployment was more than halved during his terms. Obama had the largest deportation numbers in history.

    Yet... you voted Trump... actual results my ass... you are now giving Trump credit for Obama's results.
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  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by rosebull View Post
    I would, but something tells me you'll blindly just say "but trump was worse" so i dont tink this discussion would go anywhere but full circle

    Edit: Sure enough, the guy above me did just that xD

    /modern left. So easy to predict.
    What a cop-out. "Oh, I could tell you, but you wouldn't believe me just because of facts."

    Don't be a pussy. Point to someone who is provably, objectively a bigger liar than Trump. I dare you.

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Well there goes that crumbling base, he's back at 44% http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._index_history

    These polls don't really matter until Summer of next year anyway, but it's funny you won't see this on the front page of the Washington Post today I'm sure.
    That's the Rasmussen Report which is heavily right wing biased. They always show the republicans way ahead and even predicted Obama losing both the 2008 and 2012 elections.

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    One correction, they did predict Obama winning the 2008 election, but not till close to the election.
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  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    Nope, economy is up, migration is down, americans are happy (;
    How's that Obamacare repeal coming along?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    now its just a good result considering how many people just hate him no matter what happens around them.
    He can make great things but yet be a target for constant venom from the left due to his personality.

    which is pathetic because politicians and people generally imo judged by their actions and results more than ever.

    (lefties dont get it, i guess)
    Ring me when he starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Still struggling to crack 50% even on the most heavily biased conservative poll there is?

    That's still not good, but I guess North Korean-esque threats of "fire and fury" go a long way in shoring up his support with many conservatives?
    It doesn't matter to them about representing all people in the US. @Jeezy911 is an authoritarian, and will gladly support a president with sub 30% approval because in his mind that just means the rest of the population are a bunch of subversive interlopers looking to destroy his "conservative hero". It's a religious exercise for him, and for all Trump sycophants. He believes the policies that Trump advocates won't hurt his family or his own well-being, and when they do, he, like Trump, will blame it on the democrats or RINOs or SJWs, or transpeople, or Western Europe, or African migrants, or North Korea, or free trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    I'm guessing that alot of his voter base is leaving because he havent built a wall yet, Obamacare is still in place etc. I doubt they're leaving because he's a childish lunatic, he spent a year showing that before they voted for him.
    The wall will be built, whether or not Mexico pays for it is another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    It doesn't matter to them about representing all people in the US. @Jeezy911 is an authoritarian, and will gladly support a president with sub 30% approval because in his mind that just means the rest of the population are a bunch of subversive interlopers looking to destroy his "conservative hero". It's a religious exercise for him, and for all Trump sycophants. He believes the policies that Trump advocates won't hurt his family or his own well-being, and when they do, he, like Trump, will blame it on the democrats or RINOs or SJWs, or transpeople, or Western Europe, or African migrants, or North Korea, or free trade.
    Lol what? I'm an atheist. Authoritarian? I don't want the government to do anything other than protect our sovereignty. You have no clue what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Lol what? I'm an atheist. Authoritarian? I don't want the government to do anything other than protect our sovereignty. You have no clue what you are talking about.
    Welcome to the developed world where the government protects their sovereignty and much more. Maybe you are looking for a younger, more dynamic, more adventurous country like South Sudan, I heard they have hella rights there, like so many more better beautiful rights let me tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Welcome to the developed world where the government protects their sovereignty and much more. Maybe you are looking for a younger, more dynamic, more adventurous country like South Sudan, I heard they have hella rights there, like so many more better beautiful rights let me tell you.
    Why would i move when I am happy with the leadership here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    Why would i move when I am happy with the leadership here?
    Because the government is doing a whole lot more than protecting sovereignty, they are taking care of the elderly with your hard earned tax dollars for christ sakes. Look at all the rights you are losing being in this socialist hell hole of a country. A rugged individualist like you should be vying for land and cattle in South Sudan, and becoming a war lord.

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    In the ongoing war Trump chose to wage with McConnell, he retweeted a FOX News tweet that centers around Trump's tweets.

    Isn't that a lot like "like"ing your own FB posts, and smelling your own farts? Also, did he run out of things to say about McConnell already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    The wall will be built, whether or not Mexico pays for it is another story.
    No, tell the truth. Mexico will never pay for the wall and Trump knew it. The Niento call transcript reveals as much for anyone still stupid enough to have any doubts.

    Say it. I want to hear what the truth sounds like coming from you. It'll be novel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    The wall will be built
    Sure, right after you win the lottery.

    The wall requires congressional action. As we've seen Congress isn't willing to fund the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    The wall requires congressional action. As we've seen Congress isn't willing to fund the wall.
    The House voted on a budget with $1.5B for the wall, well under one-tenth what even conservative (both meanings) estimates call for. The Senate has used the term "poison pill" to describe Wall funding. And while in March there was news about drafts for Wall prototypes being due, there's been nothing since except Trump's comment that the Wall should be clear so we can see the drugs being thrown over it and get out of the way.

    So to recap: Trump won't build the Wall, half of Congress approved under 10% of the funds, there's no design, and Trump has admitted it won't stop drugs from coming into the USA.

    And of course, Mexico's not paying for it, and the idea of border tariffs has been ditched.

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    Again, a reason his numbers might be eroding is his continued, blatant use of the government for his own personal profit.

    Such as posting information about his properties on official dot-gov sites. Again.

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