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  1. #221
    well if u can read, i have postet here the description according to wikipedia, directly from the source u gave:

    Antifa is a far-left, extra-parliamentary, anti-fascist network in Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Australia, Canada, the UK and the United States of America whose stated goal is to "smash fascism in all its forms"
    It also states that it was founded after in 1932, the communist party paramilitary troups Rotkämpferbund were forbidden to exist after a big battle with the nazi party paramilitary, the SA.

    The antifa was founded directly to fight the nazis in 1932, after the regular communist party troups were disbanded.

    It has nothing to do with anarchism, it is a underground militia that was founded to fight against the rising Nazi party in germany before they took power.
    Last edited by Holofernes; 2017-08-22 at 07:04 PM.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Holofernes View Post
    well if u can read, i have postet here the description according to wikipedia, directly from the source u gave:


    It also states that it was founded after in 1932, the communist party paramilitary troups Rotkämpferbund were forbidden to exist after a big battle with the nazi party paramilitary, the SA.

    The antifa was founded directly to fight the nazis in 1932, after the regular communist party troups were disbanded.

    It has nothing to do with anarchism, it is a underground militia that was founded to fight against the rising Nazi party in germany before they took power.
    You are falling for the propaganda, and missing the important statment "After the forced dissolution in the wake of the Machtergreifung in 1933, the movement was revived during the 1980s." So the underground resistance during the Nazi-regime was not called Antifa.

    Thus people in the 1980s started a group (with different ideological background) - and claimed a name from the 1930s; same as east-Germany built a Anti-Fascist wall. It is just an attractive name. Additionally the different current Antifa-groups are only loosely coupled.

    Similarly as people in the US in 2004 starting a group called "Minuteman" to control the Mexican border; they are not directly related to the ones that fought during the revolution.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_movements
    The modern Germany movement most commonly associated with anti-fascism originated in the late 1980s, growing out of West Germany's squatter scene and autonomism movement. This movement ultimately has its origins in the student-based Außerparlamentarische Opposition and the values associated with the new social movements. Unlike the 1930s Antifaschistische Aktion, which adhered to Marxist-Leninism and was part of the Communist Party of Germany, concerned with industrial working-class politics against Hitler's NSDAP, the late 1980s and early 1990s "autonomists" were instead independent "anti-authoritarian" Libertarian Marxists and anarcho-communists, not associated with any particular party.
    There does not seem to be any country where the current Antifa/AFA are directly related to groups that fought against the actual Nazis.

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